Anyone know Greystone Firearms? He has a suppressor I paid for..

[Quake_Guy]

most of the point of the NFA registry is to track NFA items, not do background checks on buyers... up to a few years ago, the only background check being done was by NICS at time of pickup.

after this experience, I would be very leery of paying big bucks for a machine gun because apparently you can submit the same NFA item multiple times and nobody notices which I am very unclear on how that could happen. I have had ATF call me to clarify barrel lengths, I guess who or how many not as important. Unless machine guns get more scrutiny than cans. But end of day, if there is fraud its pretty clear nobody cares.

 

[DarrylB]

Everything was done before his suspension and he has a second attorney assisting in the judgment process.

 

[DarrylB]

I spoke with Ms. Tyson from the ATF a few minutes ago. Her email is [email protected]
If you purchased a suppressor and you haven't received it and you have a copy of the form, contact her.
Hopefully your form will have the serial number on it. If not, there may be nothing she can do.

 

[Viper 1-26 INF]

Not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but since this is a business that is scamming people and committing fraud, you should also file a compliant with the State Attorney General's Office, since this is the kind of thing they deal with... Just sayin'

 

[deanq]

I also bought two cans from Neil (Omega300 & Omega 9K). He sold my serial numbers twice also. One was even transferred to another dealer. I'm still trying to get my $400 back from ATF for the two cans. What a cluster F**K.

I went to his home and talked to him and he admitted to what he did. I don't think he has any approved forms in the system. He insinuated the ATF cancelled any that were associated with him.
Oh....my saga with Neil started 19 months ago.

I tried to give him all the latitude I could. I did offer him to pay me back in installments. We'll see.
He has dug a VERY deep hole for himself at this point.

 

[TheAccountant]

Hopefully you recorded that conversation

 

[AZDESERTRAT]

Anyone have Cheryl Tyson’s phone number? I’ve reached out via email and haven’t heard back yet.

 

[superdrag67]

I also bought two cans from Neil (Omega300 & Omega 9K). He sold my serial numbers twice also. One was even transferred to another dealer. I'm still trying to get my $400 back from ATF for the two cans. What a cluster F**K.

I went to his home and talked to him and he admitted to what he did. I don't think he has any approved forms in the system. He insinuated the ATF cancelled any that were associated with him.
Oh....my saga with Neil started 19 months ago.

I tried to give him all the latitude I could. I did offer him to pay me back in installments. We'll see.
He has dug a VERY deep hole for himself at this point.

I thought you had said around the time I started this thread that you were heading to his house that day to pick up one of your two cans. Did that never happen?

 

[deanq]

I thought you had said around the time I started this thread that you were heading to his house that day to pick up one of your two cans. Did that never happen?

When I got there, amazingly, the lock on his safe broke, and he couldn't get it open. :liar:
Just another instance in his list of "misdirections".

 

[josephsixecho]

Cheryl Tyson from AFT responded to my email and gave me a phone number to call to check status of the form that was supposedly sent in by Neil. Neil has not responded to my calls or texts.

 

[Stronghand]

He's blocked me on Facebook. Owes me a bunch of suppressors and 2k for a SCAR 17 he ordered but never got from a distributor that doesn't even take orders like that. Conveniently after asking to borrow 2k as an investment. Supposedly Form 3'd my suppressors 3 weeks ago but I've literally ordered in 3 back to back to back since then and they all were approved in about 4 days at most. That's counting the weekend. He's done I know I've got my complaint in with the AG and a few others do too. Even when called out on everything he tries to pass it off like it's all a sinister plot against him and he values friendship. Good luck on the legal pursuits everyone. First one to get their shit or money buys the drinks.

 

[Ballistic Therapy]

I don't know anything about this guy but it kind of sounds like the same thing Black Weapons Armory did in Tucson.
Black Weapons closed shop and took lots of people for their money.
As far as I know nothing has happened about it and everyone that had orders with them lost out.

 

[superdrag67]

He's blocked me on Facebook. Owes me a bunch of suppressors and 2k for a SCAR 17 he ordered but never got from a distributor that doesn't even take orders like that. Conveniently after asking to borrow 2k as an investment. Supposedly Form 3'd my suppressors 3 weeks ago but I've literally ordered in 3 back to back to back since then and they all were approved in about 4 days at most. That's counting the weekend. He's done I know I've got my complaint in with the AG and a few others do too. Even when called out on everything he tries to pass it off like it's all a sinister plot against him and he values friendship. Good luck on the legal pursuits everyone. First one to get their s*** or money buys the drinks.

Sorry to see that a lot of you are a lot worse off than I was. I can't imagine being out that kind of money.

He's got to be running around 10k owed to people minimum just based on this thread. The fact that he can screw so many people over like this and suffer no consequences (so far) with something as easily traceable as NFA is insane.

 

[Stronghand]

Lol more then that. One guys claiming 13k I'm at 5k several others seem to be down a suppressor or two. All gonna have to go in on together for the AG complaint. Just go for criminal charges.

 

[superdrag67]

True. Had forgotten about the 13k guy. Hard to keep track when there are so many. :angry-banghead:

 

[Stronghand]

The crazy part is we are all easily solved problems. In my just file the paperwork and boom 3 days later you owe me way less. I've physically seen my suppressors on the table and inspected most of them. He says he did weeks ago. Bullshit form 3s are taking less than a week but for whatever reason continue the lie. He f***ed up his customers correction paperwork with the ATF and they denied the approval. Seems like applying customer service would make sense. Either refund the money or help them resubmit. Not resell the same suppressors to other people allegedly. I honestly can't be certain whether he's just a shitty businessman or a kleptomaniac. I mean a customer literally pre pays for 30 firearms and you take the money but never deliver. Even though when I looked at the parts orders he ordered enough to make all the rifles. Never saw where they went. Not to the client. So he took the money made other rifles which you would assume were sold at a profit. Then where's that money? Idfk. I'm gonna laugh when this goes to court at how stupid we're all gonna sound explaining this. I think in the end the ATF needs to have an agreement regarding the purchase of NFA items and law enforcement regarding the ownership post payment to delivery.

 

[josephsixecho]

Lol more then that. One guys claiming 13k I'm at 5k several others seem to be down a suppressor or two. All gonna have to go in on together for the AG complaint. Just go for criminal charges.

That sucks, I only got dinged for $300, not that much money but its the principle. The guys a piece of shit and needs to be stopped from doing this to others.

 

[AZDESERTRAT]

I’m out about a grand and one tax stamp... and 18 months of my life dealing with this shit

 

[87jeep]

Surprised his house is still standing. :evil: ..... I met him years back, was up front and paid cash for item. Made my mind up many years back that the "pay and wait", for me, was not going to happen.

 

[superdrag67]

The crazy part is we are all easily solved problems. In my just file the paperwork and boom 3 days later you owe me way less. I've physically seen my suppressors on the table and inspected most of them. He says he did weeks ago. Bullshit form 3s are taking less than a week but for whatever reason continue the lie. He f*** up his customers correction paperwork with the ATF and they denied the approval. Seems like applying customer service would make sense. Either refund the money or help them resubmit. Not resell the same suppressors to other people allegedly. I honestly can't be certain whether he's just a shitty businessman or a kleptomaniac. I mean a customer literally pre pays for 30 firearms and you take the money but never deliver. Even though when I looked at the parts orders he ordered enough to make all the rifles. Never saw where they went. Not to the client. So he took the money made other rifles which you would assume were sold at a profit. Then where's that money? Idfk. I'm gonna laugh when this goes to court at how stupid we're all gonna sound explaining this. I think in the end the ATF needs to have an agreement regarding the purchase of NFA items and law enforcement regarding the ownership post payment to delivery.

I'm not sure seeing the items means a damn thing at this point. It highly likely that those suppressors were already sold to someone (or multiple someones) else. Hell they could have already had approved stamps on them that he was sitting on. It's hard not to want to hold onto the hope that things could turn out ok but it would be beyond foolish to think that even if he did submit the forms that you would ever see the suppressors. Hell, in a few months he might be sitting in jail. :x

I don't think simple customer service would solve most of his problems anymore. He's dug a hole too deep. It's extended way beyond being a shitty businessman and into fraud, theft, etc.

Also what are you referring to in the above bolded part? Was that somewhere in this thread? I'm going to have to read through again..