Virginia looking to make firearms training a class 5 felony

[shooter444]

Good up date!

As I stated above,... "With the ongoing collapse of the Demonscats lying impeachment charade,... Demonscats are truly going into a full blown psychotic panic!!!"".

Threatening armed American Patriots with troops, for acts of tyranny, is something the Demonscats really haven't thought out fully, imo. But, then again, if they could think things out fully, we wouldn't be where we are today!!!

 

[TheAccountant]

Mr. Accountant
Spent a few minutes going over your posts and realized you seem to be good at research. I guess I missed the part about this particular being amended and section 3 added to existing law. My bad.

But I have 2 questions

1. Is the Constitution and Bill of Rights superior to state statute's and USC? As in, do I have a right to assemble friends with weapons and peacefully train, even if politicians and soccer moms get scared

2. Are you a paid cooler?

It has nothing to do with being good with research. It has everything to do with verifying facts. Instead of clicking on the link that was provided in the OP and reading the amendment (in bright red text), you clicked on Infowars and regurgitated what that jackass Alex Jones had to say about it. Would you rather not read facts and form your own opinions?

1. Read my post again. I was actually the first one to call out the third paragraph, which is the only new paragraph in it. My point was it wasn't the "deep state" trying to outlaw firearms training as everyone else had ranted, but rather a nonsensical response to the nutjobs in Charlottesville that tied their racist BS to gun ownership.

2. No, I'm a rational human being that forms his own thoughts based on the best information available versus talking heads with their own agenda telling me what to think. I'm an Arizona native. I'm a firearms enthusiast. I'm sick and tired of idiots continuing to give the left more ammunition to make the firearms community look like a bunch of clowns.

You're too rational. Nor do I believe you're a enthusiast. You're a cooler, your job to is lower the temperature on potential activism. If the AZ legislature were debating a gun ban bill and AZ shooting members were planning a march, you'd be the guy saying "you can't without a permit"

If you've followed the left's tactics you know they are completely void of facts and based solely upon emotion. AND THE TACTIC WORKS!!!!! So why do you try and cool down fired up righties?

Hmmmmm...

"You're too rational, what's that mean?
It's like too much money, there's no such thing
It's like a girl too pretty with too much class
Being too lucky, a car too fast..."

Here's a rational thought that's probably too rational for you: Why would any paid troll or "cooler" worry about a site with maybe 20 active members where threads are dominated by ~3 blow hards (shooter444, flash, bucket rider) that will never do anything but whine and cry on the internet?

We all talk $hit about CA, but at least they actually have a forum with useful information.

 

[Flash]

Blowhard?? You're obviously an egomaniacal idiot and a legend in your own mind. Off you go to ignore.

 

[shooter444]

"Here's a rational thought that's probably too rational for you: Why would any paid troll or "cooler" worry about a site with maybe 20 active members where threads are dominated by ~3 blow hards (shooter444, flash, bucket rider) that will never do anything but whine and cry on the internet?"

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Why would any paid troll or "cooler" worry about a site with maybe 20 active members,... quite simple, ARIZONASHOOTING.ORG is the largest most active, longest existing, Arizona based gun site on the net,.... that's why!

 

[Miker12]

It begins: Virginia forms active militia to protect sheriffs, citizens from unconstitutional laws
Things are getting really bad in Virginia. But this group isn’t going down without a fight.

Virginia – Earlier in the week, we reported on how lawmakers over in Virginia were threatening to use the National Guard if members of local law enforcement refused to enforce laws passed in the state that they felt violated the second amendment.

Well, looks like Tazewell County isn’t going down without a fight. On top of calling themselves a second amendment sanctuary county, they’re also crafting a militia as well. The Virginia county has taken the movement that has swept across the state and added an element that is sure to trigger pro gun-grabbing politicians in the state.

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/it-begins-virginia-forms-active-militia-to-protect-sheriffs-citizens-from-unconstitutional-laws/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=socialnetwork

 

[shooter444]

Very interesting, Miker12,... very interesting indeed!

 

[Flash]

It's interesting to watch. The Governor makes a move, the citizens counter, the Gov makes another move, the citizens counter.

IMO the citizens aren't going to blink, so the Governor will if he has half a brain, which is about the max allotted to progressives.

 

[shooter444]

Yup! I agree,... I think the whole Nation is watching ! If an armed resistance is successful,.... be ready for it to spread like a wild fire, from coast to coast and border to border !!!

imo

 

[TheAccountant]

There's a whole pile of retards around the corner from me at 24th Street and Camelback celebrating the house vote today. Rise up blowhards. Go show 'em what you're made of.

 

[Miker12]

Here’s the summary on what’s happening in Virginia
Let’s look at all these facts together.

-With Michael Bloomberg’s help, the Democrats took over the Virginia state congress.
-There’s an anti-paramilitary bill that would disallow armed people to gather or teach others how to use firearms or any technique that could cause injury or death.
-There’s a bill that would make semi-automatic weapons illegal.
-Nearly the entire state (aside from the highly populated areas that elected these yahoos) has balked and formed Second Amendment sanctuaries.
-A legislator threatened the sanctuaries with the National Guard.
-The sanctuaries responded by activating an organized militia.
-The only real way to prevent bloodshed and save face for the congress and governor is for these bills not to pass.

That would be difficult, though, given the fact that Bloomberg dumped millions of dollars into getting people elected who promised to pass strict gun control bills. If they suddenly vote against the bill, they will have to face their angry constituents and the wrath of Bloomberg.

Rural Virginians seem unlikely to back down and are willing to fight. They have another month to get organized to defend their communities.

 

[Ballistic Therapy]

How many National Guard members live in these sanctuary counties ?
What are they going to do if they get mobilized ?

 

[shooter444]

Personally, I believe,... Bloomturd has overestimated his ability to infringe without civil revolt,... as it is, with most of the narcissistic Deep State power mongers.

I believe,... he wants to step up the One World Government USA GUN CONFISCATION agenda before Pres. Trump starts cracking down on the Deep State in his second term.

Scuttlebut leaks seem to indicate the Demonscat impeachment scam is not only falling apart, but, even among their own members. If Bloomturd and his Deep State minions don't go for the gold ring now, they obviously see, and fear, a very dark future containing a long slow slippery slope to mass indictments.

There is nothing more dangerous than a panic stricken politician, or politicians, watching their political power slipping away. The closer we move towards that end,.... the more violent life in the USA will become. They have more than enough fanatic puppets willing to kill on command.


jm.02

 

[Flash]

How many National Guard members live in these sanctuary counties ?
What are they going to do if they get mobilized ?

Don't have answers to your questions, but consider that the members of the guard are authorized to not comply with any orders they receive that are illegal or unconstitutional. Many in the military are pro 2A so a lot could decide to sit it out or join the pro 2A forces...with their weapons.

The Guard can perform police functions when the Governor calls them up.

However, at that point or even before, the President can Federalize the guard and at that point, they can't help the Governor at all due to the Posse Comitatus act.

Interesting stuff. An ancient Chinese curse says "may you live interesting times." I'd submit that we do.

 

[Miker12]

There's a whole pile of retards around the corner from me at 24th Street and Camelback celebrating the house vote today. Rise up blowhards. Go show 'em what you're made of.

I see we have a person who wishes to incite this board into violence. Hmmm, the government seems to place people within organizations and then incite violence, be the first one to push illegal acts and so on. It is how they start the criminal proceedings. Be careful everyone! Asked moderator to be aware of this, police are aware.

 

[Pale Rider]

Pretty good read:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/virginia-activates-official-militia-after-gun-confiscation-threats-lawmakers-want-make

 

[TheAccountant]

There's a whole pile of retards around the corner from me at 24th Street and Camelback celebrating the house vote today. Rise up blowhards. Go show 'em what you're made of.

I see we have a person who wishes to incite this board into violence. Hmmm, the government seems to place people within organizations and then incite violence, be the first one to push illegal acts and so on. It is how they start the criminal proceedings. Be careful everyone! Asked moderator to be aware of this, police are aware.

You're delusional.

 

[shooter444]

A good read,... indeed!

I think it's little early to start prophesying, but, the response by the Adjutant General of Virginia’s National Guard leaves me thinking of two possible outcomes.

I see his response as expressly mediocre, to either warn the state legislature to cool their jets,... or, to keep the heat down and not inflame the citizens forming their militia.

As I sated,... the entire Nation, if not the World, is watching in anticipation!!!

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Maj. Gen. Timothy P. Williams, the Adjutant General of Virginia’s National Guard responded rather vaguely via Twitter.

"We have received multiple questions regarding proposed legislation for the 2020 General Assembly session and the authority of the Governor of Virginia to employ the Virginia National Guard in a law enforcement role."

"We understand and respect the passion people feel for the U.S. Constitution and 2nd Amendment rights. We will not speculate about the possible use of the Virginia National Guard."

 

[Harrier]

I'm not a lawyer but as a layman it seems to me, just by reading the current law passed in 1987, that most of these things people are now worried about (Teaching, Training, Group Practice), were already outlawed for the past 32 years, they just didn't enforce it... (kinda like they did with seat belts for a time).
Seems like the only thing the proposed addition will do is criminalize people who assemble in a group (ie public protest / counter-protest) and one of them happens to have a magazine in his pocket (not even a firearm, just a component thereof).... looks like pitchforks and torches are out too.
What really needs to be addressed is repealing the 1987 law.

As for Bloomturd, you don't think the millions mean anything to him do you? No matter what happens he wins. He gets stooges 6 states a way to do his dirty work and if it succeeds he takes the win on to the next state while everyone dances around the campfire. If things go south and he loses the first battle all he has to do is sit back and watch while some authority doesn't stand idle and sends in someone to take charge.... could be the state or the feds that will instill order. You don't think they wil send in the homeboys do you? They will ask for assistance and deputize outsiders (remember Katrina) to take care of the dangerous work... maybe even form a joint task force with the state authority in the #1 seat and everyone else... just following orders...
yes it will be interesting.

 

[Pale Rider]

The thing that a lot of ignorant people don't understand is that all laws are enforced without consistency. Stupid people will say, "hey it's been on the books for decades, what are you worried about". All it takes is for some overzealous tyrant to come along and prosecute and take things to the limit. That's why I believe this particular law in Virginia was dusted off and added to. They expected push back from all the other new gun control bills they plan on passing and they want to be able to back them up and put people in jail for not bending to their tyrannical will.

 

[TheAccountant]

The thing that a lot of ignorant people don't understand is that all laws are enforced without consistency. Stupid people will say, "hey it's been on the books for decades, what are you worried about". All it takes is for some overzealous tyrant to come along and prosecute and take things to the limit. That's why I believe this particular law in Virginia was dusted off and added to. They expected push back from all the other new gun control bills they plan on passing and they want to be able to back them up and put people in jail for not bending to their tyrannical will.

Read the elements of the law before you go off on some passive-aggressive rant.