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Background check for private sale???????

I've never heard of anyone doing that in Arizona.
 
I'm sure some Greedy FFL would take you up on that offer but why bother with someone requesting such a thing unless they are shipping it to me out of state ftf they can pound sand
 
What these two are saying is it is not necessary to do a background check in Arizona with a private sale between two legal possessors. Of course you can, any FFL will do a transfer and probably charge you twice.
 
I do it for $20. A lot of sellers are afraid to sell to a prohibited person. Transferring it through our books with a background check releases their liability.
 
PK90 said:
I do it for $20. A lot of sellers are afraid to sell to a prohibited person. Transferring it through our books with a background check releases their liability.

I do all my personal sales at AJI for this reason. If someone is not a prohibited possessor, then they don't object.

In today's society, it is good protection against lawsuits, not to mention the potential legal troubles if the guy was prohibited and you were charged with a straw purchase or similar.
 
A_C Guy said:
PK90 said:
I do it for $20. A lot of sellers are afraid to sell to a prohibited person. Transferring it through our books with a background check releases their liability.

I do all my personal sales at AJI for this reason. If someone is not a prohibited possessor, then they don't object.

In today's society, it is good protection against lawsuits, not to mention the potential legal troubles if the guy was prohibited and you were charged with a straw purchase or similar.

Life's too short to be a member of the "what if?" brigade. You can't live in fear.
 
PK90 said:
Ballistic Therapy said:
Who pays for the background check , The buyer or the seller ?
it doesn't matter to the dealer. That's determined by the two parties.

I realize that.
I was just curious , if the buyer wants $400 for a gun that is worth $400 , does he then add another $25 to it or does he pay for it.
So basically if the gun is priced right and the buyer has to pay he ends up paying too much. $400+ $25 = $425 for a $400 gun.
If the seller pays then he looses money. $400 - $25 = $350 for a $400 gun.
 
A_C Guy said:
PK90 said:
I do it for $20. A lot of sellers are afraid to sell to a prohibited person. Transferring it through our books with a background check releases their liability.

I do all my personal sales at AJI for this reason. If someone is not a prohibited possessor, then they don't object.

In today's society, it is good protection against lawsuits, not to mention the potential legal troubles if the guy was prohibited and you were charged with a straw purchase or similar.
How very California of you all.

CA had to pass laws to force people to do this but here in freedom loving AZ you all want to voluntarily do it
 
Steve_In_29 said:
A_C Guy said:
PK90 said:
I do it for $20. A lot of sellers are afraid to sell to a prohibited person. Transferring it through our books with a background check releases their liability.

I do all my personal sales at AJI for this reason. If someone is not a prohibited possessor, then they don't object.

In today's society, it is good protection against lawsuits, not to mention the potential legal troubles if the guy was prohibited and you were charged with a straw purchase or similar.
How very California of you all.

CA had to pass laws to force people to do this but here in freedom loving AZ you all want to voluntarily do it

Can't fix stupid.
 
I understand the paranoia of possibly selling to a prohibited possessor but, look at it the way law enforcement has to look at it. Private gun sales don't legally have to go through background checks in Arizona so, if a gun shows up in a crime that you once owned, it gets real tough to prove that you intentionally sold it to a criminal. Even more difficult to connect you with the crime itself without other additional evidence. Yes, the cops will come ask you some questions but, if you don't have a criminal record and you explain how the sale of the gun went down, there is little in the way of evidence that you did anything wrong. It does not automatically involve an arrest.
 
A_C Guy said:
I do all my personal sales at AJI for this reason. If someone is not a prohibited possessor, then they don't object.

In today's society, it is good protection against lawsuits, not to mention the potential legal troubles if the guy was prohibited and you were charged with a straw purchase or similar.

I'm not a prohibited possessor. I have an Arizona CCW, a Florida CCW and a Utah CCW and I object strenuously.

I absolutely refuse to submit to this sort of thing on private party sales and would walk away from any deal involving it.
 
ditto on the can't fix stupid comment, ugh, think my brains gonna explode over the liberal attitude some gun gemokes have

just saying, hehehehe
 
I feel that any one that wants to can, they can also feel free to move back to Kommiefornia. For that is the life style to "feel safe in". I like the one to feel "free in"
 
87jeep said:
I feel that any one that wants to can, they can also feel free to move back to Kommiefornia. For that is the life style to "feel safe in". I like the one to feel "free in"

The BAD is that they move here and vote in our elections
 
Flash said:
A_C Guy said:
I do all my personal sales at AJI for this reason. If someone is not a prohibited possessor, then they don't object.

In today's society, it is good protection against lawsuits, not to mention the potential legal troubles if the guy was prohibited and you were charged with a straw purchase or similar.

I'm not a prohibited possessor. I have an Arizona CCW, a Florida CCW and a Utah CCW and I object strenuously.

I absolutely refuse to submit to this sort of thing on private party sales and would walk away from any deal involving it.

Indeed.

In what is supposed to be free people in a free society who are supposedly opposed to infringement,...its just horribly bad manners.
 
judgy judgy judgy arent we. The guy didnt come on and say " I think all private transactions should have to go through an FFL" He didnt say .. "I think it should be law that all private transactions go through an FFL"

He asked a GUN community if they knew anyone who provided a particular service. All this bullshit about freedom and infringement in this thread .. I guess only pertains to select individuals that follow the herd.

I am decidedly a freedom/ libertarian kind of guy. If the OP is more comfortable with doing his transaction through an FFL and the buyer is on board .. fugin more power to him. That is called Freedom. If you don't like the conditions of his sale don't buy from him .. that is your freedom.

To insist that your way is the only right way when we still live in a state that wonderfully still offers you a choice .. well .. sorry but that doesn't sound very freedom minded.

As far as looking sketchy .. there are only several thousand evil doers that neighbors would swear were the most upstanding citizens they ever met including that freak who raped the girl in Hacienda. I used to ride the Subway and look at all the "put together" people and wonder who was wearing a chicken costume when they fuk.

I dont ask people that I sell to to go through an FFL but if the OP wants to .. more power to him. If he had something I just had to have and he ate the FFL cost .. it wouldn't stop me from buying from him.
Personal choice!

At the same time if AZ tried to make it law .. I would fight it tooth and nail and donate where appropriate. Sh*t I dont like that I have to register my vehicles!!

To the OP... I think most of the home ffl's will do it but you already have one FFL here that says he will and someone vouched for AJI. I know that guns 2 ammo will do it too.
 
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