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73_Travelall said:
Its amazing how ignorant some people are, I dont understand how a single veteran could support Biden. Let's set aside 100 other things and focus on the gun tax :naughty: not is it just ridiculous, it would create a registry.. Nazi Germany ring a bell? Yep, the usual left calling the right exactly what left is guilty of. "Big orange man bad" turn off the TV fool. Bidens 'admitted' he has the best election fraud team.. thats the only reason he's made it this far.

Java man, do me a favor, when Trumps re-election is announced go out and protest with your BLM'ers.

This.

Sometimes pragmatism has to rule the day.
 
Lot of disappointment coming to a color near you Red or Blue, disappointment is gathering momentum.
 
I voted for Trump in both elections, but I'm tired of all the voter fraud rhetoric. The campaign and it's legal teams have not come up with anything credible or substantial in terms of fraud and what they have actually brought to court is embarrassing. Time is not on his side, so at this point the only logical conclusion is that they do not have evidence of substantial voter fraud (substantial meaning enough to flip the election in his favor). The longer this goes on, the more it hurts the chances of retaining the Senate in the GA runoffs, and then we'll really be screwed.

We all got countless hours of enjoyment watching the liberal meltdowns after the 2016 election. It's pathetic that so many so-called conservatives are acting the same way this time around.
 
TheAccountant said:
I voted for Trump in both elections, but I'm tired of all the voter fraud rhetoric. The campaign and it's legal teams have not come up with anything credible or substantial in terms of fraud and what they have actually brought to court is embarrassing. Time is not on his side, so at this point the only logical conclusion is that they do not have evidence of substantial voter fraud (substantial meaning enough to flip the election in his favor). The longer this goes on, the more it hurts the chances of retaining the Senate in the GA runoffs, and then we'll really be screwed.

We all got countless hours of enjoyment watching the liberal meltdowns after the 2016 election. It's pathetic that so many so-called conservatives are acting the same way this time around.

They haven't brought any evidence at all up to this point or if they have, I haven't seen it.

They said they'd present it in court and I'll defer judgment until I've actually seen and heard the evidence.
 
That's my point. They don't have evidence of anything. They've filed suit in several states and have been smacked down handily. The burden is theirs and they've come up with nothing. It's not like this can be some 6 month thing, so they either have it or they don't, and they obviously don't.
 
On November 3rd, I watched a handful of concerning videos that demonstrated election fraud. In one video, a guy takes a stack of "Trump" ballots out to the woods, pours lighter fluid on them, and burns them on camera while flipping them off.

Even prior to election day when mail-in ballots were being sent in, there were a handful of Project Veritas videos that showed a woman who claims to have been bought off to produce Biden votes in Texas. She went into the tactics she used and made it sound like she has a whole network of people under her doing the same thing.

These are just a couple instances of people too stupid to keep their secret. How much more fraud happened in this past election that will most likely remain a mystery. I have no doubt that this election had a tremendous amount of fraud, and I believe it's likely Trump actually would have won by a substantial margin, but whether there is proof to give him the win is another thing entirely. I'm still trying to keep my hopes up.
 
TheAccountant said:
That's my point. They don't have evidence of anything. They've filed suit in several states and have been smacked down handily. The burden is theirs and they've come up with nothing. It's not like this can be some 6 month thing, so they either have it or they don't, and they obviously don't.

Why would you tip your hand to your enemy and allow them to strategize and be able to deflect and counter? Until discovery is available I would keep everything I had obfuscated until the exact moment I had to use such evidence. Once the court cases have been settled and theres truth on the votes being accurate, then I will acquiesce.
 
Flash said:
TheAccountant said:
That's not how it works.

Nope, that's exactly how it works.

It's really not. You have to present enough evidence to compel the court to move forward. Without that, there's no case and no discovery phase. This is the reason their cases continue to get dismissed.
 
TheAccountant said:
Flash said:
TheAccountant said:
That's not how it works.

Nope, that's exactly how it works.

It's really not. You have to present enough evidence to compel the court to move forward. Without that, there's no case and no discovery phase. This is the reason their cases continue to get dismissed.

I'm thinking crooked, communist judges in crooked, communist states has a lot to do with it.
Trump's lawyers such as Sidney Powell, who has an impeccable reputation, is not going to throw a bunch of it against the wall hoping something will stick.
Thousands of whistle-blowers Republican AND Democrats who are sick of the corruption and evidence coming in like a "tsunami" takes time to process.
Patience my friends, Trump will prevail and heads are going to roll.
 
I confess; I am beginning to lose heart.
U.S. District Judge Matthew Brann on Saturday dismissed one of the Trump campaign's lawsuits in Pennsylvania. In the lawsuit the Trump Team accused Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar and election officials in a number of counties of creating a "two-tiered" voting system for the 2020 presidential election. The campaign believed voters were held to different standards depending on if they decided to vote in-person or by mail.

According to Brann, the lawsuit was used as an attempt to throw out legally cast votes.

"Plaintiffs ask this Court to disenfranchise almost seven million voters. This Court has been unable to find any case in which a plaintiff has sought such a drastic remedy in the contest of an election, in terms of the sheer volume of votes asked to be invalidated," the Obama appointee wrote. "One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption, such that this Court would have no option but to regrettably grant the proposed injunctive relief despite the impact it would have on such a large group of citizens."

The judge stated the lawsuit brought about “strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations" that are "unsupported by evidence.”

Maybe I am wrong. I hope so.
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ETA:
I looked up the Wikipedia page for Judge Brann:
Biography
Brann was born in Elmira, New York, on July 25, 1965.[1] He received his Bachelor of Arts degree in 1987 from the University of Notre Dame. He received his Juris Doctor in 1990 from the Dickinson School of Law of the Pennsylvania State University. From 1990 to 1991, he served as a law clerk with the Court of Common Pleas in Bradford County, Pennsylvania. He became an associate at Brann, Williams, Caldwell & Sheetz in 1991, becoming a partner at that firm in 1995. He also spent years as a Republican Party official in Pennsylvania and was active in the Federalist Society and National Rifle Association.[2] In private practice, he focused on tort, contract, commercial, and real estate litigation.[3][4]
 
Long way to go, long way....keep your powder dry. When trump is re-elected President, the commies are going to go crazier than they already are.
All of the deceivers trying to cast doubt posting on the forums will go away.

Obama appointed Judge:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/21/trump-lawyers-pennsylvania-lawsuit-dismissal-moves-us-closer-to-supreme-court/
 
baja said:
I'm thinking crooked, communist judges in crooked, communist states has a lot to do with it.
Trump's lawyers such as Sidney Powell, who has an impeccable reputation, is not going to throw a bunch of it against the wall hoping something will stick.
Thousands of whistle-blowers Republican AND Democrats who are sick of the corruption and evidence coming in like a "tsunami" takes time to process.
Patience my friends, Trump will prevail and heads are going to roll.

Right. These are my exact thoughts. That's what I was trying to tell the accountant guy.
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Well... Cases are being dismissed and votes are being certified, so I don't really know what you guys think is going to happen. Someone please lay out the path to victory here (no black helicopter tin-foil hat bs).
 
Could be wrong but I think more than one of those "commie" federal judges was R. Have hope but keep your feet on the ground. Late last night after reading, reuters, ap, fox, cnn, detroit press and on and on...grew weary and went outside around 2am for some stars. It was faint, but familiar, I am sure I heard that fat lady warming up doing the scales lalalala etc. I am sure Rudy can not shut her up, perhaps the boss can but she IS warming up.
 
At 4:00 today, Sunday 11/22, Fox reported that Sidney Powell is not a member of the Trump legal team.
 
smithers599 said:
At 4:00 today, Sunday 11/22, Fox reported that Sidney Powell is not a member of the Trump legal team.

Filing case separately seems to be the reasoning as this takes more time.

Same bullshit said with the iNdiCtMeNtS.

Honestly, I don't give a shit anymore because.

Here is the reality we all need to accept.

1. No one is coming to save us.

2. Freedom and whatever amount you wish to secure is going to be up to you and you only.

3. You are responsible for everything.

This means:

More PT.

More Preps.

Casting off all things that aren't helping the two above. A good start would be to delete cancerous social media.

Known where your line is in the sand and make peace with God as you understand him and ask simply to:

Accept the things you cannot change, courage to change the things you can and the wisdom to know the difference.

That's all I can do.
 
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