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I just looked there, not a single listing for the FAL.

Apex, Sarco, Numrich, Gunthings, Ernst Armory for better luck.

And DSA for new production.

Conelrad
 
Being a old man, I do like the M14. It was very easy to maintain and it work every time. And yes, I bet my life on it for a year. I now have M1A match that I got in 1974 and it still holds MOA even out at 600 yards. The first one is the one is like I had in Nam.
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This is my NM M1A.
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Funny how it usually follows age brackets.

Us (over 60) like those from back then.

The youngsters like those AR's.

Whatever flips yer bippy!

Conelrad
 
Conelrad said:
A FAL is a lot better battle rifle. It has been one of the top choices (that & the G3) for a half century by those that need the firepower over that of a 'poodle shooter'.

Maybe not a better target rifle past 400m in the basic form, but it can be tuned to enhance performance without resorting to expensive gunsmithing and reliability reducing mods.

The FAL is a lot easier to maintain, select options for (less $), and is a lot less ammo-sensitive.

Get one if you want something you can bet your life on.

Conelrad
GODDAM that's a sexy looking rifle :violence-snipersmiley:
 
Conelrad said:
Funny how it usually follows age brackets.

Us (over 60) like those from back then.

The youngsters like those AR's.

Whatever flips yer bippy!

Conelrad

Not in my case.

I cut my teeth on the M1 Garand and lusted after an M14 clone since I was 18. Back in 1987 when I shot my first LEG match to qualify for my $187 surplus M1, I was teamed up with a couple of old duffers in their 60s who loaned me a match grade Springfield M1A to complete the course. I was convinced it was what I MUST have. While I was never able to afford a true National Match model, I have owned a few M14 type rifles over the years.

Then I acquired a surplus Canadian C1 (FAL) and fell in love with that system. Owned a para model too.

All the while I was also playing around with AR rifles and have built well over 40 in my time. I knew the AR10 platform had even better potential than either, but the proper new production examples like Knight's or LWRC or POF were even more expensive than the FALs or M14s. The competing dimensions and tolerances between the manufacturers of the newer reborn AR10 styles also made it complicated to simply set about making your own AR10 precision rifle. Heck, there were even 2 entire different and incompatible receiver styles. But now, finally, there is a settling out of these competing standards in the AR10 world and order is establishing. And it is now more affordable to build a match grade tack-driver on the AR10 technology than the M14 or FAL. And you can do it at home, by yourself,...just like assembling an AR15, with many of the same tools. The mags are now cheaper as well. The recoil impulse is lighter. The optional accessories available are greater.

It is simply superior.
 
Well..... that's one opinion. The draw back is it still runs on 7 lug locking bolt and chamber. 8 if your counting the extractor. They tend to have problems in dirty environments. Where as the FN FAL and M1A were made more for running in a dirty environment. I'm not telling you your wrong. In a overwatch scenario great gun. In a dust storm in the desert not so much.
 
Elk34 said:
Well..... that's one opinion. The draw back is it still runs on 7 lug locking bolt and chamber. 8 if your counting the extractor. They tend to have problems in dirty environments. Where as the FN FAL and M1A were made more for running in a dirty environment. I'm not telling you your wrong. In a overwatch scenario great gun. In a dust storm in the desert not so much.

Keep the dust cover closed when not in use and carefully select your propellants so as to not gum up the innards, and that ceases to be an issue.

I've seen plenty of FALs and M14 types puke their guts out.
 
In a haboob you get sand in your asshole. I've had ar10 fail in the desert and in muddy environments more than the M1a or Fal. The open face bolt on the fal and m1a are easier to manage then the AR10. Even when your pour in the oil. The AR10 just has alot more matainance to it then the others. I got so made I threw my Ar10 and all that came with it into a lake and said fu,&k you. I picked up I believe it was a Brazilian fal and I could pour mud into it and it would stay running. I'm just saying it has its place and from my experience it's not on the battlefield it's looking over it.
 
And then you ran up the hill with Teddy to save Custer from the Spainards yelling give me liberty or give me death
 
Lobo2087 said:
And then you ran up the hill with Teddy to save Custer from the Spainards yelling give me liberty or give me death

No...at the time I was lighting his cigar.
 
Elk34 said:
In a haboob you get sand in your a**hole. I've had ar10 fail in the desert and in muddy environments more than the M1a or Fal. The open face bolt on the fal and m1a are easier to manage then the AR10. Even when your pour in the oil. The AR10 just has alot more matainance to it then the others. I got so made I threw my Ar10 and all that came with it into a lake and said fu,&k you. I picked up I believe it was a Brazilian fal and I could pour mud into it and it would stay running. I'm just saying it has its place and from my experience it's not on the battlefield it's looking over it.
Guess,I had a rare M 14 in Nam. It was in salt water, mud and sand and it work when needed. day in and day out with no screw ups. Unlike the M-16's we had on the boats.
 
Had both,Easily the Fal,smoother shooting,easier to clean,about as accurate unless its against a fancier M1A.Fal weighs more,mine did...but you get that nice carry handle !
 
Get them both. M1a has better sights and the bolt locks up at the front of the bolt vs a dropping bolt that’s locking lug is at the rear of the bolt w/ the FAL
 
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