walther ppk or sig 230?

[tripletap]

if you could only have one of these-
which one and why?

 

[Ballistic Therapy]

They are both nice guns , but I would choose the Walther.
Not a S&W but the older Interarms.

 

[Bullzaye]

The Walther of course is more iconic. It not only has the James Bond appeal and mystique, but also the WWII historical appeal. For sexiness and recognition...tough to beat the PPK. I agree...don't get the Smith & Wesson version.

However...if I were choosing between the two as a defensive pistol, fun plinker, or if the accuracy/reliability/pleasure of shooting was a major factor...I'd choose the Sig P230. One of the finest .380s made (I've never fired a Beretta M.84 or 85, or the Browning version...but I understand they're excellent pistols, and I believe it!). It's a tad large, but nothing outrageous, feels great in the hand, has much better ergos and controls versus the PPK, has a better trigger, handles HPs better, has better sights, and is generally a better shooter.

That's my $.02. Ideally...get one of each. Also, the Berettas, Browning, and a CZ83. I'm still looking for a nice (reasonably priced) Beretta or Browning.

 

[baby huey]

The 230 is nice but try finding mags. I also believe that Sig no longer services them (not 100% on that). Walther PPK for me.

 

[tripletap]

thanks gents- ive had the sig for a decade or more- been in the safe-
if i bought a walther id probly do the same- but the walther is iconic
i dig it

 

[tripletap]

il just keep my sig- thanks gents

 

[Harrier]

The only technical issue with either (and this is personal preference) is they are blow-back design and I have come to the conclusion I prefer a locking breech for high pressure loads in that small caliber.
Having said that, I wish I hadn't sold my Beretta S70 or Colt Mustang. I also had a Bersa, which is a clone of the Walther, and enjoyed shooting it at the range- just not a carry gun. Availability of spare mags is another issue to keep in mind.

 

[pneuby]

.. if the accuracy/reliability/pleasure of shooting was a major factor...I'd choose the Sig P230. ..feels great in the hand, has much better ergos and controls versus the PPK, has a better trigger, handles HPs better, has better sights, and is generally a better shooter.

You really only forgot one thing...no hammer bite as with an old-school PPK. The S&W American made ones do have an extended grip tang, but the rest of it still rules.

 

[Bullzaye]

You really only forgot one thing...no hammer bite as with an old-school PPK. The S&W American made ones do have an extended grip tang, but the rest of it still rules.

I was including that in my statement, "feels great in the hand, has much better ergos..."

 

[Bullzaye]

I was including that in my statement, "feels great in the hand, has much better ergos..."

What's ergos?

Ergonomics. As in...the controls are located and function in a manner which is more easily/naturally manipulated...and the whole firearm just sits and feels better in the hand. It's subjective...just my opinion on it.

 

[Bullzaye]

i know what ergonomics is, but a quick google showed nothing for ergos.

And I respect your opinion, just didn't know why ergos was being used instead of its correct use, so I asked to clarify because I have seen the latin use of ergos being used as substitute for the word, therefore.

I was confused at the mentioning of how something can feel better in the hand, therefore, and not finish the rest of what you saying.

Thanks for clarifying though, I'm not big on speaking colloquial. Take care.

Okay. Sorry if I wasn't very clear. Over the years, I've heard so many people talk about the "ergos" of this firearm or that one. I had never even considered that it might be confusing to some. Glad we straightened it out. Cheers!

 

[samnev]

The Walther of course is more iconic. It not only has the James Bond appeal and mystique, but also the WWII historical appeal. For sexiness and recognition...tough to beat the PPK. I agree...don't get the Smith & Wesson version.

However...if I were choosing between the two as a defensive pistol, fun plinker, or if the accuracy/reliability/pleasure of shooting was a major factor...I'd choose the Sig P230. One of the finest .380s made (I've never fired a Beretta M.84 or 85, or the Browning version...but I understand they're excellent pistols, and I believe it!). It's a tad large, but nothing outrageous, feels great in the hand, has much better ergos and controls versus the PPK, has a better trigger, handles HPs better, has better sights, and is generally a better shooter.

That's my $.02. Ideally...get one of each. Also, the Berettas, Browning, and a CZ83. I'm still looking for a nice (reasonably priced) Beretta or Browning.

I've owned a PPK for many years but rarely shot it. My Favorite 380 is the Beretta M84. But I have owned or shot the SIG 230.

 

[Chico]

The first thing I would check is if the Walther a US or Euro production? It will make a difference when looking for accessories like holsters as they are not the same size. There is just enough difference that some holsters will fit one but not the other. I would then compare that to what is available for the Sig. Both are good guns but I would want to make sure I could carry them.

 

[Ballistic Therapy]

I have both , American Interarms and German Interarms PPK/S .
They both work in the same holsters.
I am pretty sure that the only difference in the PPK is a shorter handle.
I know a PPK/S magazine will work in a PPK but not the other way around.

 

[Robert1234]

Sig is more streamlined due to the placement of the decocker. Never understood locating a safety/decocker on the slide, it's an unnatural reach.

 

[laabstract]

If you can find an aluminum Sig P230 I would get that over the PPK. I had a Aluminum Sig P230 and it was one of the most comfortable CCW pistols I have owned.

 

[Aznine]

Sig P230 I like it for its reliability

 

[Pima Pants]

One drawback of my PPK (notice not S) is its weight. Too heavy for pocket carry. As far as other means of carrying, my Kahr PM9 offers more firepower in a lighter package, so that is what I carry. The PPK is still cool and classy.

 

[h8pvmnt]

I have one of the SW PPK's in Stainless and it is the most uncomfortable pistol to shoot that i think i own. Sharp edges and stiff recoil make it no fun at all. I like the look of it and the iconic status of it but i would rather have an original WW2 era blue version in .32 ACP. That would be cool. I own a Beretta 81, 84 and 86(Tip up Barrel) pistols in .32 & .380 and a Browning BDA in .380 and they are all good shooters but the .380 versions have more recoil than a Ruger LCP 2 due to the fixed barrel and blowback operation. They do fit a larger hand much better. Never shot the Sig P230 always wanted one but not enough to pay the prices these days.