Thoughts and input on Ford 6.0 Powerstroke
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gunsnboobs
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Steve_In_29 said:
Yep, I knew another know it all would spout off about the Dodge trans. I've putt many hundreds of thousands of miles on Dodge transmissions and have yet to rebuild one...but I'm one of those people who believes in preventative maintenance like changing the fluid on a regular basis.
I would say I'll see you in the shop...but I won't!
BUT!!!! Even if I were to have to put $5K into a trany it's cheaper than $7500 to "fix" a factory Powerstroke before it breaks.
gunsnboobs
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XJThrottle said:
Yes, easy to talk sh!t without experience. You ever even owned a diesel?
The only advise I would give to the OP is do a ton of research on the internet like some of us have. Tons of info on diesel forums and youtube from owners and actual mechanics who work on these trucks.
I do. '04 DMAX. Puts 600 to the ground. If you would've started reading this thread at the beginning you would know that. So, yeah I've done a bit of work to diesels.
gunsnboobs
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I did read the thread from the beginning, just don't pay much attention to your posts.
Steve_In_29
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Ah so your example of one is supossed to be proof that Dodge automatic transmissions are good to go but multiple examples of 6.0s having no trouble aren't relevant.gunsnboobs said:
Dodge sold WAY more manual transmission then automatics because even they acknowledged the issue. The factory down rated the truck's towing capacity when an automatic went in it.
No need to spend $7500 to "fix" a 6.0. Headstuds and switching to Cat EC-1 coolant will pretty much take care of things for most owners.
shooter444
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I have always bought Ford diesel trucks, for many decades. Had a problem for many years with the last F250 Power Stroke blowing power boosters every time I hit a substantial grade with a 3 horse trailer on back. After 6 power booster replacements, I traded it in on a new 2014, F250 4X4 gas Power Stroke and haven't looked back.
gunsnboobs said:
Only enough to try and call me out.
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Steve_In_29
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What engine? 6.0's come with hydro-boost and not a vacuum booster. As did the last versions of the 7.3.shooter444 said:
What exactly were you "blowing"?
If the vacuum booster and it repeatdly went out under heavy breaking, then it sounds like the pedal rod wasn't adjusted properly.
That post is full of misinformation.
The trailer should stop itself. Install a brake controller.
You also didn't by a "2014 F250 4x4 GAS Power Stroke".
The trailer should stop itself. Install a brake controller.
You also didn't by a "2014 F250 4x4 GAS Power Stroke".
shooter444
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XJThrottle said:
You are correct, I bought so many Diesel Power Strokes, It was just habit,.., SUPER DUTY is what I meant.
The Diesel Super Duty that was blowing POWER BOOSTERS, was a model/year that was notorious for blowing power boosters. Which had nothing to do with "stopping" a trailer,... I have no idea what you are trying to say.
Steve_In_29
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Why the secrecy? What model/year?shooter444 said:
Got a link on that as google isn't giving me anything?
cool arrow
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lots of good info in this thread, I am glad I posted it.
I think I may go with a 5.4 Triton, diesel sounds like overkill for me and a PITA to boot
I think I may go with a 5.4 Triton, diesel sounds like overkill for me and a PITA to boot
Suck My Glock
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If you're patient and search diligently, you can find a diesel bargain.
Just yesterday, I pulled the trigger on a 2006 Duramax 2500 Express workvan that had previously been a locksmith company vehicle. I paid $4200. Mileage is 214,000 but that's not much for a diesel. To compare that mileage to a gasser, cut the number in half, and that's about right. While not a pick-up or 4x4, it's sufficient for what I'm looking to do with it, which is long road trips doing moderate towing. For as many miles as it has, its in incredible shape and shows signs of having been well maintained and not abused. I've still got some $ to put into it to make it more to my tastes, but that's just me and not necessary. The only real performance upgrade I'm doing to it is adding an Edge CTS2 Monitoring system, which just helps to keep track of the various data one seeks to keep tabs on a diesel to prevent failures. Essentially its a tablet you mount on your dash that plugs into your OBD2 recepticle and acts as a set of gauges for tranny temp, exhaust temp and such. But (most important to me) it also acts like an alarm clock for your odometer. You set the alarms for your maintenance intervals, so that,...lets say,...at 5,000 miles you need to changle the oil or whatever,...the thing will pester you like a seatbelt buzzer. I'm a master procrastinator,...so I need this.
Just yesterday, I pulled the trigger on a 2006 Duramax 2500 Express workvan that had previously been a locksmith company vehicle. I paid $4200. Mileage is 214,000 but that's not much for a diesel. To compare that mileage to a gasser, cut the number in half, and that's about right. While not a pick-up or 4x4, it's sufficient for what I'm looking to do with it, which is long road trips doing moderate towing. For as many miles as it has, its in incredible shape and shows signs of having been well maintained and not abused. I've still got some $ to put into it to make it more to my tastes, but that's just me and not necessary. The only real performance upgrade I'm doing to it is adding an Edge CTS2 Monitoring system, which just helps to keep track of the various data one seeks to keep tabs on a diesel to prevent failures. Essentially its a tablet you mount on your dash that plugs into your OBD2 recepticle and acts as a set of gauges for tranny temp, exhaust temp and such. But (most important to me) it also acts like an alarm clock for your odometer. You set the alarms for your maintenance intervals, so that,...lets say,...at 5,000 miles you need to changle the oil or whatever,...the thing will pester you like a seatbelt buzzer. I'm a master procrastinator,...so I need this.
Ballistic Therapy
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214,000 miles apparently isn't much for a diesel engine , but what about the rest of the vehicle ?
Front end , shocks , suspension , bearings and such are no different than any other vehicle.
I would never buy a vehicle with that many miles on it , but that is just me.
No offense intended.
Front end , shocks , suspension , bearings and such are no different than any other vehicle.
I would never buy a vehicle with that many miles on it , but that is just me.
No offense intended.
Steve_In_29
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For $4200 he can afford to put a little money into maintenance if need be.Ballistic Therapy said:
Suck My Glock
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Agreed.
Yes, things will break eventually. I accept that and am prepared for it. But maintenance is the key.
My current daily driver is an 04' Dodge Grand Caravan with over 234,000 miles on the little 3.3 liter v6. I got it with 171,000 miles, but from an owner that took meticulous care of it. In all this time (2.5 years) I've been driving it, all I've had to replace are some motor mounts, a starter and a battery. And I absolutely HATE Dodges, but the Grand Caravan is one thing they actually got right. I've seen some go nearly 300,000 miles with proper care.
A big part of why I got the 06' Express is that it is a "mature" platform. There's nothing new about it. Nothing unproven to be a surprise issue. The suspension is well tested and there is a wide range of aftermarket support. Same with the electrical and the body. And if/when things need replacing, nothing is cheaper to replace than Chevy bits. Even the particular model of Duramax,...the LLY,...is just the right sweet spot in the history of the motor. It was the last year before the new complicated emissions crap like DEF, yet benefitted from everything learned from the earlier LB7 1st gen motor that was upgraded into the LLY next gen model.
I'm a happy guy.
Yes, things will break eventually. I accept that and am prepared for it. But maintenance is the key.
My current daily driver is an 04' Dodge Grand Caravan with over 234,000 miles on the little 3.3 liter v6. I got it with 171,000 miles, but from an owner that took meticulous care of it. In all this time (2.5 years) I've been driving it, all I've had to replace are some motor mounts, a starter and a battery. And I absolutely HATE Dodges, but the Grand Caravan is one thing they actually got right. I've seen some go nearly 300,000 miles with proper care.
A big part of why I got the 06' Express is that it is a "mature" platform. There's nothing new about it. Nothing unproven to be a surprise issue. The suspension is well tested and there is a wide range of aftermarket support. Same with the electrical and the body. And if/when things need replacing, nothing is cheaper to replace than Chevy bits. Even the particular model of Duramax,...the LLY,...is just the right sweet spot in the history of the motor. It was the last year before the new complicated emissions crap like DEF, yet benefitted from everything learned from the earlier LB7 1st gen motor that was upgraded into the LLY next gen model.
I'm a happy guy.
well then so be it, happy is good, i'm a duramax fan, have some great history with mine and hope to continue for another couple hundred k of miles, although, as my towing is begining to be less, may have to say goodbye to it in the future, and see what is next.
Rj
Rj
The vans came with the 4l80 which is a bit cheaper to repair than the Allison too.
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I ended up picking up a 2004 F-150 FX4 extended cab with 200,000 miles but a crate engine was done around 155,000.
It drives nice, has a lift kit that while professionally done, I don't care for, but I got it for $5,000 so am not going to complain.
The seller was a construction guy, so it is kinda stinky but for the price, I can detail it and hope for the best.
As much as I want a diesel, I don't want to get into something that I can't turn a wrench on or have to wonder about. The 5.4 Triton in this truck should have enough power for me and it sounds REALLY nice, so who knows...
It drives nice, has a lift kit that while professionally done, I don't care for, but I got it for $5,000 so am not going to complain.
The seller was a construction guy, so it is kinda stinky but for the price, I can detail it and hope for the best.
As much as I want a diesel, I don't want to get into something that I can't turn a wrench on or have to wonder about. The 5.4 Triton in this truck should have enough power for me and it sounds REALLY nice, so who knows...
