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Red Dot on a handgun .. any regrets?
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One thing with an RDS is finding the dot when shooting one handed or in awkward positions. It takes a lot of practice to make sure you can find the dot when doing a rollover prone from behind cover.
FWIW - RDS shooting sure seems to be a perishable skill - at least at the level that I've been doing it (probably 2000-3000 rounds through it since this post started). I had gotten to the point that I felt pretty comfortable shooting through the dot - and started carrying the RDS equipped gun. For a number of reasons I went about three months without shooting it. The drills back out a week or so ago were ugly. Clearly the muscle memory necessary to bring the muzzle down far enough to find the dot were not fully engrained... The muscle memory came back faster - but it was an eye-opener about the need to practice, practice, practice... I still only have an RDS on one handgun. I'm thinking that if I'm going to continue to carry an RDS equipped gun, I need to change that - so that on plinking days there are more RDS guns than iron sight guns. I need to get one on a semi-auto .22 so going out and putting 500 rounds through a gun is a $30 proposition not a $120 proposition.
Suck My Glock
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Yeah,...I'm old school. Irons only for me on pistols. The only exception is when it comes to large suppressors that occlude the irons, making an optic necessary. But even then, using the tube itself as an impromptu alignment tool, I can usually hit an IPSC silhouette target by indexing alone with most such rigs out to 25 yards if not under pressure, and shorter distances if rushed.
I've tried using RMRs. I really have. But they are just soooooo damned slow to acquire the sight picture. I'm glad they work for who they work,...but that just ain't me. The old school principles of draw, present front sight, rock rear into plane, press trigger,...are just so universal to employ regardless of handgun you pick up. It eliminates any need to spend undue time adapting to a new hogleg.
I've tried using RMRs. I really have. But they are just soooooo damned slow to acquire the sight picture. I'm glad they work for who they work,...but that just ain't me. The old school principles of draw, present front sight, rock rear into plane, press trigger,...are just so universal to employ regardless of handgun you pick up. It eliminates any need to spend undue time adapting to a new hogleg.
kenpoprofessor
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Suck My Glock said:
I actually had similar issues when trying to adjust to "the dot", and oddly enough, the issue was solved when I bought a RMR RDS on Amazon that had a circular reticle around the dot. It was a night and day revelation.
I got one of these and have bought a few more just cuz they were so nice.
https://gun.deals/product/1-1-76
https://gun.deals/product/1-1-34
Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day
Clyde
WhiteDragon
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Only regret? That I didn't do it sooner. If you think RDS are slow to acquire a sight picture, it's all YOU; your draw and presentation suck and I'm willing to bet, so does your grip. Fix it or get training.
Yes, all shooting is a perishable skill. An RDS isn't a super-computer that'll aim for you, it's a device that helps you aim but if the rest of your basics suck, it will only make you more aware of your suckage, so suck less. Bring on the hate...
Yes, all shooting is a perishable skill. An RDS isn't a super-computer that'll aim for you, it's a device that helps you aim but if the rest of your basics suck, it will only make you more aware of your suckage, so suck less. Bring on the hate...
Hansen
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I have ZERO regrets of going to the RDS system. I have been involved in many RDS classes, and I have only dealt with 1 person that stated they could NOT do it. All he stated is it was NOT for him.
I am getting older, and I it has been a help to my eyes, I really don't see myself getting away from it at all. I am seeing a lot of perspective users going to the RDS. Many just don't realize it does have a learning curve. With the right information/instructor this learning curve can be mitigated quite a bit.
I tell new users it enhances what you are: If your fundamentals are good, it will make you look great! Just as if your fundamentals are crappy, it will make you look bad!
I am getting older, and I it has been a help to my eyes, I really don't see myself getting away from it at all. I am seeing a lot of perspective users going to the RDS. Many just don't realize it does have a learning curve. With the right information/instructor this learning curve can be mitigated quite a bit.
I tell new users it enhances what you are: If your fundamentals are good, it will make you look great! Just as if your fundamentals are crappy, it will make you look bad!
WhiteDragon
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