Lagging FFL transfers
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MarkItZero
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Did you by chance order a gun this store regularly stocks?
Doc
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Go down there and ask nicely and be willing to wait?
gunpoorboy1
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Get a different FFL. That's just crappy customer service. I had a similar problem until I found an FFL which knows and respects the fact that people are waiting for their toys.
MarkItZero
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danonly55 said:
Personally, as a matter of respect I never transfer a gun to a store when I know it's something they carry. Thankfully for me the pawn shop I do my transfers at mostly just stocks Taurus, SCCY and Savage.
I have a usual FFL but I have not purchased a new gun in over 4 years and was not sure they survived the covid crap. It was 11pm when I purchased it and did not want to lose out on the deal I got on it, So I went with one the vendor had listed. I tried the nice approach already.. No dice.
If they truly haven't logged it into their books in 3 days, they are in in danger of violating of ATF regulations.
"Generally, for licensed dealers the purchase or other acquisition of a firearm shall be recorded not later than the close of the next business day after the date of the acquisition or purchase.
However, if commercial records containing the required information are available for inspection and are separate from other commercial documents, dealers have 7 days from the time of receipt to record the receipt in the acquisition and disposition (A&D) record." - ATF
Sounds like a shop to avoid for ffl transfers...share the name with the group.
"Generally, for licensed dealers the purchase or other acquisition of a firearm shall be recorded not later than the close of the next business day after the date of the acquisition or purchase.
However, if commercial records containing the required information are available for inspection and are separate from other commercial documents, dealers have 7 days from the time of receipt to record the receipt in the acquisition and disposition (A&D) record." - ATF
Sounds like a shop to avoid for ffl transfers...share the name with the group.
Sounds like a shop to avoid for ffl transfers...share the name with the group.
Keep someone from making the same mistake
Keep someone from making the same mistake
hairygreek
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Household FFLs are better.
Most dealers don't make much on a transfer by the time they pay someone to do all the paper work. They take a risk storing a gun until it is picked up, some NIC checks take up to a week. They sometime have to deal with shipping damage or other disputes too. If a gun needs to be repaired some people think they should help with a return or warranty. I knew a guy who had 3 handguns shipped and picked up one a week so the dealer would not file a multiple gun sale. The average guy buying guns on line does NOT spend ANY money at the local shops instead they shop everywhere else but, they expect their service... Don't be that entitled POS.
When buying online you are buying from a dealer who has an unfair advantage over a small shop. E-shops have big volume and can sell less than a local shop can buy it for. Many of them are distributors buying in a volume small shops can not afford to do that. Can you imagine what it costs to buy 20 cases of ammo at a time so they can get better pricing? (about 8 grand) then it will take a year to sell it all... Of course to get that pricing they will need to buy a hundred grand or more a year.
I worked for a distributor/gun shop once, we got ammo and guns shipped several pallets at a time and sold locally at just over dealer cost. After a few years all the dealers in town went out of business. Then a few years later the shop I worked for relocated 45 miles away... So for ten years locals were left without a local gun shop and had to drive 45 miles to get guns or ammo. After ten years a new shop opened up then it closed too. Now 30 years later they still have to drive 20 miles to the nearest gun shop.
Most small gun shops barely make enough to pay their overhead and they do it because they like what they do. In a small shop there are many days if you take out their operational cost; employees, rent, electricity and cost of goods they actually make zero profit. The average guy buying guns on line does NOT spend any money at the local shop (except his transfer fee) instead they shop everywhere else to save a buck.
I wonder who they will ship to when all the small dealers go out of business and there are no local FFL's to receive their stuff... With gas prices today that might add another $50. bucks to their online purchase.
So be sure to spend some money at those local shops...
When buying online you are buying from a dealer who has an unfair advantage over a small shop. E-shops have big volume and can sell less than a local shop can buy it for. Many of them are distributors buying in a volume small shops can not afford to do that. Can you imagine what it costs to buy 20 cases of ammo at a time so they can get better pricing? (about 8 grand) then it will take a year to sell it all... Of course to get that pricing they will need to buy a hundred grand or more a year.
I worked for a distributor/gun shop once, we got ammo and guns shipped several pallets at a time and sold locally at just over dealer cost. After a few years all the dealers in town went out of business. Then a few years later the shop I worked for relocated 45 miles away... So for ten years locals were left without a local gun shop and had to drive 45 miles to get guns or ammo. After ten years a new shop opened up then it closed too. Now 30 years later they still have to drive 20 miles to the nearest gun shop.
Most small gun shops barely make enough to pay their overhead and they do it because they like what they do. In a small shop there are many days if you take out their operational cost; employees, rent, electricity and cost of goods they actually make zero profit. The average guy buying guns on line does NOT spend any money at the local shop (except his transfer fee) instead they shop everywhere else to save a buck.
I wonder who they will ship to when all the small dealers go out of business and there are no local FFL's to receive their stuff... With gas prices today that might add another $50. bucks to their online purchase.
So be sure to spend some money at those local shops...
I am all for buying local, I would like to keep my money in our state, This is not a small shop by any means. The walls are lined with AR's and 1911's and their transfer fee is 50 bucks which is the highest I have ever seen. If they were worried about overhead than their business plan is not realistic. My usual FFL charges 20 and does transfers in 1-2 days at most. These guys said they would have it by Thursday, well that day has past and it's still not complete. Many other people have had similar issues with this store. Wanting a good deal and to save over 110 bucks on a purchase is a ideal and a sound purchase in my book.Cmoor said:
Cmoor said:
That's the price you pay to live in a small town, or the boonies. The same goes for everyday items like gas and groceries.
Before the 'vid I was buying enough that it would've been cheaper to just be a FFL.
To those without CCW permits....
Be dangs sure you will pass your background check before you order a gun and have it shipped to ANY FFL. IF you get a denial, they have you over a barrel. They cannot release the gun/s you've PAID for. Best you will get is a low-ball offer, and they absorb the gun/s into their inventory. Either that, or make DARN sure the place you order from will take it back in return, even if there is a re-stocking charge.
Be dangs sure you will pass your background check before you order a gun and have it shipped to ANY FFL. IF you get a denial, they have you over a barrel. They cannot release the gun/s you've PAID for. Best you will get is a low-ball offer, and they absorb the gun/s into their inventory. Either that, or make DARN sure the place you order from will take it back in return, even if there is a re-stocking charge.
danonly55 said:
Our shop charges $30 and we process within minutes of getting a gun in.. Most of our customers could have bought from us in the first place and got the same price and allowed us to make a few extra bucks. If it was up to me we would charge $50 for all transfers that didn't come in to give us a chance to get the sale first. If we can't then we could do the transfer for our normal $30 or even less.
My boss thinks charging more will hurt our business but, since almost every single person who buys on line never spends a dime in the shop otherwise what would we really be losing... These idiots drive to bass pro shop to get their ammo deals because they save a few bucks so, I say let them drive 50 miles for their transfer too... Although someone told me Bass Pro charges $50 for a transfer too. Maybe someone can verify that...
I was able to pick up my gun today without any hassle or attitude from the staff. Although I do not agree with a 50 dollar ffl fee or waiting 4 days to get them to release my gun to me. For all who wants to avoid either one of these issues, avoid Tombstone Tactical, Metro center.
Thank you for the update I’d never transfer anything to them but their glock pricing is not bad
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