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lol, its inevitable that some will always prove their ignorance, with patience, they always rise to the top. hehehe, an accountant, must really just count real beans. just saying
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knockonit said:
lol, its inevitable that some will always prove their ignorance, with patience, they always rise to the top. hehehe, an accountant, must really just count real beans. just saying
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You talking in riddles is outstanding. It's like listening to Yogi Berra.
 
kenpoprofessor said:
oldslurrydog1 said:
You talking in riddles is outstanding. It's like listening to Yogi Berra.

Those of us with a brain don't see it as a riddle, so there's that.

Clyde
Says the one that has his leash held by the old one.

Just keep following like a good beta should.
 
Old Jeff H said:
Which of the Covid vaccines have received FDA approval?

Already said none but they are now adding a warning of heart condition. But hey its rare.

https://news.yahoo.com/fda-add-heart-risk-warning-230724261.html

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2021/06/24/pfizer-moderna-covid-vaccines-fda-warning-heart-inflammation-myocarditis/

https://abc7chicago.com/fda-warning-covid-vaccines-myocarditis-heart-inflammation-vaccine-moderna/10834673/

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/560029-fda-will-add-warnings-about-rare-heart
 
YNOTAZ said:
TheAccountant said:
YNOTAZ said:
Not the same at all.

A subcontractor has a contract that likely has an LD clause, a “prosecute work with all due diligence” clause, and an “appropriate manpower to maintain schedule” clause.

Loss of a superintendent, a crew, or key personnel because they haven’t been or refuse to be poked will not only create a financial burden that will likely close that business, it will cause an irreparable violation of the contractor’s license. If the GC submits a complaint the QP and all officers/partners of that business will not be eligible to get another contracting license in AZ.

A GC can't order subs to have their employees poked if it was not part of the initial contract. I don't know a single sub that would agree to those terms in a contract prior to starting work.

I don't know all of them but I know a damn good number of them.

Oh, so you mean if the sub makes decisions that make it difficult or impossible to retain employees they’re top line is going to suffer? You mean if a GC makes demands and can’t find a sub to take their work at the price they’re willing to pay they’re business will suffer too? Shocking. I’ve never heard that before. :roll:

You're talking out of you A$$, you don't train construction workers over night and you know nothing about construction contracts.

Why don't you just quit and cut your losses before everyone discovers you name is Biden.

There’s nothing special about the construction industry or construction contracts in this context and the vax issue is no different than any other new requirement placed on employees or service providers throughout the years. Setting that aside, you are the self-proclaimed construction expert, and what you described (and continue to describe) was exactly what what I said in my first statement. I guess that means you’re Joe Biden talking out your a$$ too?

Some of you have a very twisted idea of what conservative principles are.
 
TheAccountant said:
There’s nothing special about the construction industry or construction contracts in this context and the vax issue is no different than any other new requirement placed on employees or service providers throughout the years.

You are quite wrong in that statement. The construction industry is unique in that a delay in completion results in a significant financial penalty. Name another industry where there are $100/ day or $1000/ day late fees; there is none. You pay for overnight shipping and the package arrives a week late, you don't even get a refund for the overnight charge. If you are a week late completing a portion of your construction project, you just got penalized $700, (or $7000 if on a Las Vegas casino)

If you are late because the employees got sick from the jab (as most do, even .gov admits this), you just lost hundreds or thousands of dollars.

So, yes, the construction industry is unique and special in this context.

Also, this is an intrusion into the employees' personal lives. Far worse than any violation in the past.
 
YNOTAZ said:
I wonder how ADOSH or OSHA would look at the employees right to refuse dangerous work?

They are now recommending the employers factor in sick days for all employees getting the jab. They are recommending up to 2 weeks of paid sick time.
 
A_C Guy said:
TheAccountant said:
There’s nothing special about the construction industry or construction contracts in this context and the vax issue is no different than any other new requirement placed on employees or service providers throughout the years.

You are quite wrong in that statement. The construction industry is unique in that a delay in completion results in a significant financial penalty. Name another industry where there are $100/ day or $1000/ day late fees; there is none. You pay for overnight shipping and the package arrives a week late, you don't even get a refund for the overnight charge. If you are a week late completing a portion of your construction project, you just got penalized $700, (or $7000 if on a Las Vegas casino)

If you are late because the employees got sick from the jab (as most do, even .gov admits this), you just lost hundreds or thousands of dollars.

So, yes, the construction industry is unique and special in this context.

Also, this is an intrusion into the employees' personal lives. Far worse than any violation in the past.

Hahahaha. You never cease to amaze me. Are you really saying construction is the only industry with deadlines and repercussions for missing those deadlines? Contracts exist across all industries and are in place for a reason. Breach that contract and many times you’ll be praying for $1k/day penalty. There isn’t a single contract for services out there that says, “just do this when you feel like it or get around to it.”

You used the example of overnight shipping, so here’s proof that once again you are wrong:

https://www.ups.com/us/en/help-center/sri/guaranteed-service-refund.page
 
Whopping 58% of Doctors in the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons are NOT Vaccinated
Contrary to propaganda, there is no consensus on Covid vaccines by doctors.


https://americanconservativemovement.com/2021/06/21/whopping-58-of-doctors-in-the-association-of-american-physicians-and-surgeons-are-not-vaccinated/

Would a hospital risk losing 58% of the staff ? I guess it depends on management.
 
McKnight55 said:
Whopping 58% of Doctors in the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons are NOT Vaccinated
Contrary to propaganda, there is no consensus on Covid vaccines by doctors.


https://americanconservativemovement.com/2021/06/21/whopping-58-of-doctors-in-the-association-of-american-physicians-and-surgeons-are-not-vaccinated/

Would a hospital risk losing 58% of the staff ? I guess it depends on management.

They won't. According to the AMA, 96% of practicing physicians are vaccinated.

And for your future reference, the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons has a membership of about 5,000 doctors, out of approximately 1,000,000 in the United States. That's about 1/2 of one percent of all doctors and surgeons, a trivial amount.

https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-survey-shows-over-96-doctors-fully-vaccinated-against-covid-19#:~:text=CHICAGO%20%E2%80%94%20The%20American%20Medical%20Association,in%20vaccination%20rates%20across%20regions.

CHICAGO — The American Medical Association (AMA) today released a new survey (PDF) among practicing physicians that shows more than 96 percent of surveyed U.S. physicians have been fully vaccinated for COVID-19, with no significant difference in vaccination rates across regions. Of the physicians who are not yet vaccinated, an additional 45 percent do plan to get vaccinated.

The national AMA survey is the first to specifically collect data on practicing physicians’ COVID-19 vaccination rates. The survey was conducted June 3–8 and showed an increase of more than 20 percent for physicians who have been fully vaccinated for COVID-19 compared to a May 2021 Medscape poll.

“Practicing physicians across the country are leading by example, with an amazing uptake of the COVID-19 vaccines,” said AMA President Susan R. Bailey, MD. “Physicians and clinicians are uniquely positioned to listen to and validate patient concerns, and one of the most powerful anecdotes a physician can offer is that they themselves have been vaccinated. You can take it from your doctor: the COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective. With COVID-19 vaccines readily available and approved for all people 12 years old and up, we urge you to get vaccinated—take the single most important step you can to protect yourself, your family, and end the COVID-19 pandemic.”
 
TheAccountant said:
There’s nothing special about the construction industry or construction contracts in this context

TheAccountant said:
Hahahaha. You never cease to amaze me. Are you really saying construction is the only industry with deadlines and repercussions for missing those deadlines?
https://www.ups.com/us/en/help-center/sri/guaranteed-service-refund.page

Like I said, talking out of you’re a$$. You don’t know jack shiat about an industry and you’re going to compare a UPS refund to contractual LD clauses.

I signed a contract with a $6,000 per hour LD clause in it, and you vomit diarrhea about, maybe a $100 in UPS charges having to be refunded. Other contracts with NDLs that included consequential damages, going well into the millions, and you talk about a UPS package not making it on time... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I said quit, but now, stop digging when your hole is already 10’ deep.
 
YNOTAZ said:
TheAccountant said:
There’s nothing special about the construction industry or construction contracts in this context

TheAccountant said:
Hahahaha. You never cease to amaze me. Are you really saying construction is the only industry with deadlines and repercussions for missing those deadlines?
https://www.ups.com/us/en/help-center/sri/guaranteed-service-refund.page

Like I said, talking out of you’re a$$. You don’t know jack shiat about an industry and you’re going to compare a UPS refund to contractual LD clauses.

I signed a contract with a $6,000 per hour LD clause in it, and you vomit diarrhea about, maybe a $100 in UPS charges having to be refunded. Other contracts with NDLs that included consequential damages, going well into the millions, and you talk about a UPS package not making it on time... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I said quit, but now, stop digging when your hole is already 10’ deep.

Look at the post I quoted. It was A_C Guy’s own comparison. Are you really that slow/dense?
 
TheAccountant said:
Look at the post I quoted. It was A_C Guy’s own comparison. Are you really that slow/dense?

It appears your reading comprehension suffers Mr. Biden.

Maybe you should consult with your buddy, or just quit digging.
 
YNOTAZ said:
TheAccountant said:
Look at the post I quoted. It was A_C Guy’s own comparison. Are you really that slow/dense?

It appears your reading comprehension suffers Mr. Biden.

Maybe you should consult with your buddy, or just quit digging.

Let me dumb this down to about the 3rd grade level for you:

A_C Guy said:
Name another industry where there are $100/ day or $1000/ day late fees; there is none. You pay for overnight shipping and the package arrives a week late, you don't even get a refund for the overnight charge. If you are a week late completing a portion of your construction project, you just got penalized $700, (or $7000 if on a Las Vegas casino)

Get it now?
 
TheAccountant said:
YNOTAZ said:
TheAccountant said:
Look at the post I quoted. It was A_C Guy’s own comparison. Are you really that slow/dense?

It appears your reading comprehension suffers Mr. Biden.

Maybe you should consult with your buddy, or just quit digging.

Let me dumb this down to about the 3rd grade level for you:

A_C Guy said:
Name another industry where there are $100/ day or $1000/ day late fees; there is none. You pay for overnight shipping and the package arrives a week late, you don't even get a refund for the overnight charge. If you are a week late completing a portion of your construction project, you just got penalized $700, (or $7000 if on a Las Vegas casino)

Get it now?

Yep overnight charge $50, LDs $100- $,1000 don't you understand the old math?

Do you wear a pair of brown shorts at work?
 
YNOTAZ said:
TheAccountant said:
YNOTAZ said:
It appears your reading comprehension suffers Mr. Biden.

Maybe you should consult with your buddy, or just quit digging.

Let me dumb this down to about the 3rd grade level for you:

A_C Guy said:
Name another industry where there are $100/ day or $1000/ day late fees; there is none. You pay for overnight shipping and the package arrives a week late, you don't even get a refund for the overnight charge. If you are a week late completing a portion of your construction project, you just got penalized $700, (or $7000 if on a Las Vegas casino)

Get it now?

Yep overnight charge $50, LDs $100- $,1000 don't you understand the old math?

Do you wear a pair of brown shorts at work?

Are you drunk? Dementia? I don’t get how you continue to struggle with the context of all of this.
 
Is it not possible for this site to have a thread that doesn’t devolve into this same, tired mess?
 
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