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[Steve_In_29]

I don't care if the shooter is a deaf, dumb and blind choir boy, :violin: pull a firearm on a cop, you should get shot, fug'em!

The deaf guy that was shot DID NOT PULL A GUN...the cops just thought he was being non-compliant.

 

[shooter444]

I don't care if the shooter is a deaf, dumb and blind choir boy, :violin: pull a firearm on a cop, you should get shot, fug'em!

The deaf guy that was shot DID NOT PULL A GUN...the cops just thought he was being non-compliant.

Well then, since this OP is talking about a totally different subject, than you are.

Maybe you should start a new thread about non-compliant people who do not pull a gun, being shot by cops?

 

[shooter444]

Play stupid games and you win a stupid prize.

Be polite and cooperative and try to make em laugh and there's a good chance you won't get bent over a barrel.
Got out of quite a few tickets and got some others severely reduced by the above.

Yup, nothing like humor to downgrade a touchy situation!

I haven't had a ticket in decades. But, about 4/5 years ago I was in a rush to get home southbound on a lightly traveled desert road, and came face to face with a northbound deputy. I saw his brake lights come on in my rear view mirror and new I was caught.

I pulled over before he completely turned around, and had my window open with creds on my dash when he approached. Before he could say a word, I stuck my empty hands out the window, with wrists touching in handcuff position, and calmly said "you got me officer, I am guilty".

He grinned, took my creds, and returned with a " I am giving you a verbal warning this time,and I don't want to see you speeding here again".

I verbally complied to his polite suggestion, and then thanked him for just a warning.

So, I agree 792mauser, sometimes a little levity can pay off.

 

[792mauser]

Best ticket I ever got out of was me doing 70 in a 35.
The Tempe cop pulled me over. He had a really bad/angry look on his face. Stomps over with his clipboard out and angrily tells me "I've been waiting for someone like you today".

The cockyness in me couldn't resist.
"Well officer, I got here as fast as I could".

He plops the clipboard down on my hood and has a hard time from laughing. He tells me that he's had a crappy day. And I drive away with a written warning.

 

[Steve_In_29]

I don't care if the shooter is a deaf, dumb and blind choir boy, :violin: pull a firearm on a cop, you should get shot, fug'em!

The deaf guy that was shot DID NOT PULL A GUN...the cops just thought he was being non-compliant.

Well then, since this OP is talking about a totally different subject, than you are.

Maybe you should start a new thread about non-compliant people who do not pull a gun, being shot by cops?

Except it was YOU who claimed you would like to see people shot after the 3rd command for non-compliance. YOU did not mention having a gun in that post, simply that cops should be allowed to shoot when a person doesn't do what they say.

 

[shooter444]

Steve_In_29 wrote: ↑Yesterday, 6:11 pm
shooter444 wrote: ↑July 28th, 2018, 12:42 pm
I don't care if the shooter is a deaf, dumb and blind choir boy, :violin: pull a firearm on a cop, you should get shot, fug'em!

Steve_In_29 wrote:______________________________________________________________
"The deaf guy that was shot DID NOT PULL A GUN...the cops just thought he was being non-compliant."________________________________________________________

Well then, since this OP is talking about a totally different subject, than you are.

Maybe you should start a new thread about non-compliant people who do not pull a gun, being shot by cops?

Steve_In_29 wrote:_______________________________________________________________
"Except it was YOU who claimed you would like to see people shot after the 3rd command for non-compliance. YOU did not mention having a gun in that post, simply that cops should be allowed to shoot when a person doesn't do what they say."
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Ok now, enough is enough! Above is a copy of your post claiming I didn't mention the criminal having a firearm. Also claiming I said I would LIKE TO SEE PEOPLE SHOT, when, as my post you copied and posted above said THEY SHOULD BE SHOT! Where did you go to school, Democrat High?

Maybe you should try reading my posts before copying and posting them, and before making stupid, lying, comments.

Now, stop following me around this board, making verbal assaults. You have a problem with me, man up and PM me!

Enough is enough!

 

[Steve_In_29]

Oh ok..so you wouldn't like them shot...just think they SHOULD be shot. Failing to see the difference there.

So you think they SHOULD have shot him after he failed to comply with 3 commands. He had failed to comply at least 3 times by the 0.13 sec mark and hadn't even touched his gun. Yet hey 3 failures to comply should warrant shooting him according to you.

As to the "following you around" comment...get over yourself. The forum isn't all that busy and I can't help it if you post the kinds of things you do.

 

[smithers599]

I would like to see one state in this Union, show some backbone and initiate legislation allowing law enforcement placed in these types of situations, to SHOOT after the third refusal to comply to a command.
I am sick and tired of PC dept. heads putting cops lives on the line, unnecessarily.

Sure, until they take out some deaf/hard of hearing guy with two hearing aids. :think:

Or until they take out some guy who just shot a psycho who was trying to kill his grandson, and surprise him and start all yelling at him simultaneously while his ears are ringing and his eyes and nose are filled with gunsmoke, and he is disoriented and in shock over just having to shoot somebody.

 

[shooter444]

Or until they take out some guy who just shot a psycho who was trying to kill his grandson, and surprise him and start all yelling at him simultaneously while his ears are ringing and his eyes and nose are filled with gunsmoke, and he is disoriented and in shock over just having to shoot somebody.

Would that be black powder smoke, or smokeless powder smoke?

 

[Steve_In_29]

Or until they take out some guy who just shot a psycho who was trying to kill his grandson, and surprise him and start all yelling at him simultaneously while his ears are ringing and his eyes and nose are filled with gunsmoke, and he is disoriented and in shock over just having to shoot somebody.

Would that be black powder smoke, or smokeless powder smoke?

It really says something that you think that incident, which just happened in LA, as being worthy of a joke.

 

[shooter444]

That wasn't a joke! It was a direct question to the AUTHOR of that post!

 

[smithers599]

Just saw on the news a couple of minutes ago that the 72-year-old who killed the psycho who was trying to murder his grandson, only to be shot by police after not complying with their orders, did indeed have a hearing impairment.

 

[Steve_In_29]

That wasn't a joke! It was a direct question to the AUTHOR of that post!

Oh yes because the type of smoke (if any) is just SO RELEVANT to the situation where the cops killed an innocent man who had just shot the person trying to kill his 11yo grandson right?

Absent the smoke info it is just totally impossible to form an opinion on that situation.

 

[shooter444]

That wasn't a joke! It was a direct question to the AUTHOR of that post!

Oh yes because the type of smoke (if any) is just SO RELEVANT to the situation where the cops killed an innocent man who had just shot the person trying to kill his 11yo grandson right?

Absent the smoke info it is just totally impossible to form an opinion on that situation.

No, as usual you have your head up your ass!

My post on SMOKE was a notice to the members here who ARE SHOOTERS, and who know that your post on SMOKE "in his eyes and nose are filled with gunsmoke," JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN!!!

And, that your post on "SMOKE"in his eyes and nose are filled with gunsmoke, is the same type of propaganda bullshit spin, that the radical left wing media on CNN, CBS, etc., uses to inject emotion rather than facts into a fake news lie, like a Hollywood script/movie!

Did you really think you could post such crap on a gun site without getting called out for publishing BULLSHIT!!! And not expose yourself for what you really are!!!

So, as they say in a court of law, once false testimony has been given one can safely assume the remaining portions of the statement are lies as well!

I have read your profile/post history as anyone on this site can. You aren't here to share, or learn! You only attack and criticize in just about every post you publish. Obviously you are another one of those lefty libby trolls with no life, or a payed agitator harassing gun sites on the internet.

As I stated before, JUST WHAT THE f*** IS YOUR PROBLEM and STOP FOLLOWING ME AROUND THIS SITE!!!

 

[smithers599]

This thread started as a discussion of the situation involving a police shooting which, IMO, was completely justified. It got derailed when somebody suggested that the police should have shot even earlier, with the justification of "failure to comply with commands" instead of "immediately necessary to prevent another's unjustified use of deadly force." (The number three was selected arbitrarily, rather than one, two, four or seven, with no clarification of whether three officers simultaneously yelling contradictory commands would qualify.) The thread got further derailed from the original track with the assertion that gunfire in an enclosed space does not produce noticeable smoke. On an outdoor range, or on a modern indoor range with ventilation fans, the smoke is not noticeable. It has been my experience that in an enclosed space, it is. As one example, people who shoot suppressed weapons discover that when the gas in confined to a small space, their eyes tear up and they choke on the gases. As another example, a friend of mine demonstrated his H&K MP5 inside a briefcase. When he opened the briefcase, a huge cloud of smoke billowed out. As another example, there are several YouTube videos of pistols being shot inside a house at night, and it looks like there is fog in the air. As another example, a friend of mine had an unintentional discharge in my house some years ago. The bullet was stopped in the designated safe direction (the fireplace), but a minute or so afterward, with our ears still ringing from the tinnitus, the smoke alarm went off. Then consider that instead of firing just one shot, a defensive shooting inside a house might involve two or three or seven or a glockload of shots. Anybody whose experience is different, go with God.
In any case, I cannot agree with changing the standard for shooting somebody from "immediately necessary" to "three warnings is all you get."

In the original post, it's my opinion that the shooting was immediately necessary, and justified, but would not have been justified any earlier, such as after three warnings.

 

[shooter444]

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5816621992001/?#sp=show-clips

 

[Steve_In_29]

That wasn't a joke! It was a direct question to the AUTHOR of that post!

Oh yes because the type of smoke (if any) is just SO RELEVANT to the situation where the cops killed an innocent man who had just shot the person trying to kill his 11yo grandson right?

Absent the smoke info it is just totally impossible to form an opinion on that situation.

No, as usual you have your head up your ass!

My post on SMOKE was a notice to the members here who ARE SHOOTERS, and who know that your post on SMOKE "in his eyes and nose are filled with gunsmoke," JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN!!!

And, that your post on "SMOKE"in his eyes and nose are filled with gunsmoke, is the same type of propaganda bullshit spin, that the radical left wing media on CNN, CBS, etc., uses to inject emotion rather than facts into a fake news lie, like a Hollywood script/movie!

Did you really think you could post such crap on a gun site without getting called out for publishing BULLSHIT!!! And not expose yourself for what you really are!!!

So, as they say in a court of law, once false testimony has been given one can safely assume the remaining portions of the statement are lies as well!

I have read your profile/post history as anyone on this site can. You aren't here to share, or learn! You only attack and criticize in just about every post you publish. Obviously you are another one of those lefty libby trolls with no life, or a payed agitator harassing gun sites on the internet.

As I stated before, JUST WHAT THE f*** IS YOUR PROBLEM and STOP FOLLOWING ME AROUND THIS SITE!!!

Reading comprehension FAIL. I was NOT the person that brought "smoke" into the conversation.

And people who do more then shoot off a bench at the long(?) distance of 250yds know that smokeless powder is a misnomer.