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AZ CCW teaching course content requirements
- Thread starter Pro2a
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Not much.
https://www.usacarry.com/arizona_concealed_carry_permit_information.html
What are the requirements for an Arizona concealed weapons permit?
Is a resident of this state or a United States citizen.
Is twenty-one years of age or older.
Is not under indictment for and has not been convicted in any jurisdiction of a felony unless that conviction has been expunged, set aside or vacated or the applicant’s rights have been restored and the applicant is currently not a prohibited possessor under state or federal law.
Does not suffer from mental illness and has not been adjudicated mentally incompetent or committed to a mental institution.
Is not unlawfully present in the United States.
Has ever satisfactorily completed a firearms safety training program authorized by the department of public safety pursuant to subsection N, paragraph 1 of this section or has ever demonstrated competence with a firearm as prescribed by subsection N, paragraph 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9 of this section and provides adequate documentation that the person has satisfactorily completed a training program or demonstrated competence with a firearm in any state or political subdivision in the United States.
For the purposes of this paragraph, “adequate documentation” means:
A certificate, card or document of completion from a firearms safety training program authorized pursuant to subsection N, paragraph 1 of this section, dated not more than five years earlier than the date of application, that has affixed to it the stamp, signature or seal of the instructor or organization that conducted the program, or a current or expired permit issued by the department of public safety pursuant to this section.
An original or copy of a certificate, card or document that shows the applicant has completed any course or class prescribed by subsection N, paragraph 2, 3, 4, 5, 8 or 9 of this section or an affidavit from the instructor, school, club or organization that conducted or taught the course or class attesting to the applicant’s completion of the course or class.
An original or a copy of a United States department of defense form 214 (DD-214) indicating an honorable discharge or general discharge under honorable conditions, a certificate of completion of basic training or any other document demonstrating proof of the applicant’s current or former service in the United States armed forces as prescribed by subsection N, paragraph 6 of this section.
An original or a copy of a concealed weapon, firearm or handgun permit or a license as prescribed by subsection N, paragraph 7 of this section.
https://www.usacarry.com/arizona_concealed_carry_permit_information.html
What are the requirements for an Arizona concealed weapons permit?
Is a resident of this state or a United States citizen.
Is twenty-one years of age or older.
Is not under indictment for and has not been convicted in any jurisdiction of a felony unless that conviction has been expunged, set aside or vacated or the applicant’s rights have been restored and the applicant is currently not a prohibited possessor under state or federal law.
Does not suffer from mental illness and has not been adjudicated mentally incompetent or committed to a mental institution.
Is not unlawfully present in the United States.
Has ever satisfactorily completed a firearms safety training program authorized by the department of public safety pursuant to subsection N, paragraph 1 of this section or has ever demonstrated competence with a firearm as prescribed by subsection N, paragraph 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9 of this section and provides adequate documentation that the person has satisfactorily completed a training program or demonstrated competence with a firearm in any state or political subdivision in the United States.
For the purposes of this paragraph, “adequate documentation” means:
A certificate, card or document of completion from a firearms safety training program authorized pursuant to subsection N, paragraph 1 of this section, dated not more than five years earlier than the date of application, that has affixed to it the stamp, signature or seal of the instructor or organization that conducted the program, or a current or expired permit issued by the department of public safety pursuant to this section.
An original or copy of a certificate, card or document that shows the applicant has completed any course or class prescribed by subsection N, paragraph 2, 3, 4, 5, 8 or 9 of this section or an affidavit from the instructor, school, club or organization that conducted or taught the course or class attesting to the applicant’s completion of the course or class.
An original or a copy of a United States department of defense form 214 (DD-214) indicating an honorable discharge or general discharge under honorable conditions, a certificate of completion of basic training or any other document demonstrating proof of the applicant’s current or former service in the United States armed forces as prescribed by subsection N, paragraph 6 of this section.
An original or a copy of a concealed weapon, firearm or handgun permit or a license as prescribed by subsection N, paragraph 7 of this section.
storage_man
Member
And then the question is "Why is PRO2a posting" his question ? Isn't this his and our right in the first place ? Since this has been reversed, it actually feels REALLY GOOD ! No government has a right to take your god given rights away. Never forget that. An AZ CCW today is a benefit to current and future Arizona gun owners by circumventing a right by the abusing Federal Government system !
I'm not asking a political or moral question.
Its about the content required, if any, to be presented to the CCW applicant.
If nothing is mandated by the state, then I can make up my own guidelines that contain a variety of self defense topics, as well as the AZ laws pertaining to deadly force, justification..blah blah blah
Its about the content required, if any, to be presented to the CCW applicant.
If nothing is mandated by the state, then I can make up my own guidelines that contain a variety of self defense topics, as well as the AZ laws pertaining to deadly force, justification..blah blah blah
https://www.azdps.gov/services/public/cwp
In the past, I always used the Mike Anthony outline, but apparently that is not required any more. Still probably a good place to start.
Due to changes made to A.R.S. 13-3112
(link is external)
during the 2010 and 2011 legislative sessions, effective July 20, 2011, the Concealed Weapons Permit Unit will no longer approve or renew concealed weapons training programs, training organizations, or firearms-safety instructors.
Amendments to A.R.S. 13-3112
(link is external)
in 2010 added a number of new ways in which an applicant could qualify for a concealed weapons permit through training or experience. These new additions removed the statutory minimum requirements which the Unit used to evaluate and approve training programs. Since there are no statutorily defined minimum requirements, the ability of DPS to evaluate, approve and support training programs has been greatly diminished. For this reason, after July 20, 2011, the Concealed Weapons Permit Unit will no longer update, support or sanction the use of the proprietary firearms-safety training course previously used to train permit holders. Furthermore, DPS will no longer review or approve any lesson plans and will no longer publish or update the “Legal Issues Relating to the Use of Deadly Force” guideline.
In the past, I always used the Mike Anthony outline, but apparently that is not required any more. Still probably a good place to start.
Hansen
Member
There are NO MORE requirements (absolutely ZERO) stated by AZ DPS. It is open to what ever an instructor wants to do!
You can say this is a gun and you are good to go.
You can say this is a gun and you are good to go.
Hansen
Member
smithers599 said:https://www.azdps.gov/services/public/cwp
Due to changes made to A.R.S. 13-3112
(link is external)
during the 2010 and 2011 legislative sessions, effective July 20, 2011, the Concealed Weapons Permit Unit will no longer approve or renew concealed weapons training programs, training organizations, or firearms-safety instructors.
Amendments to A.R.S. 13-3112
(link is external)
in 2010 added a number of new ways in which an applicant could qualify for a concealed weapons permit through training or experience. These new additions removed the statutory minimum requirements which the Unit used to evaluate and approve training programs. Since there are no statutorily defined minimum requirements, the ability of DPS to evaluate, approve and support training programs has been greatly diminished. For this reason, after July 20, 2011, the Concealed Weapons Permit Unit will no longer update, support or sanction the use of the proprietary firearms-safety training course previously used to train permit holders. Furthermore, DPS will no longer review or approve any lesson plans and will no longer publish or update the “Legal Issues Relating to the Use of Deadly Force” guideline.
In the past, I always used the Mike Anthony outline, but apparently that is not required any more. Still probably a good place to start.
The Mike Anthony outline stopped about 2007 or so.
Hansen
Member
Pro2a said:I'm not asking a political or moral question.
Its about the content required, if any, to be presented to the CCW applicant.
If nothing is mandated by the state, then I can make up my own guidelines that contain a variety of self defense topics, as well as the AZ laws pertaining to deadly force, justification..blah blah blah
You can make up what ever class you want, it can be 1 minute to hours... What ever you want to do.
This is from the last time I taught a CCW class:
But it's no longer required, so "What difference, at this point, does it make?"
Arizona State Rifle & Pistol Association (“ASRPA”)
DEFENSIVE FIREARMS USE IN ARIZONA - LEGAL GUIDE
By Michael P. Anthony
(Version 15.9 - August, 2016)
(Five Rules for Carrying a Gun)
(State v. Serna, CR-13-0306-PR, Aug. 7, 2014 - limits “safety” seizure of firearm)
(Updated 2015 & 2016 legislation)
(2015 & 2016 legislation affecting the carry of firearms is very limited)
(2015: Nevada re-recognizes Arizona CCW - new law)
(Updated 2012 legislation, D.C. v. Heller notes
& McDonald v. Chicago [applying Heller to states] notes)
(Right to Carry while hunting - 2012)
But it's no longer required, so "What difference, at this point, does it make?"
Not trying to be a wise ass but...."that's the way the statute is written," whether it makes sense or not.Pro2a said:Maybe I'm missing something....
If nothing is required, then why is an "instructor"/qualified person even needed to sign off on the application in the first place?
HAHA good pointdeanq said:Not trying to be a wise ass but...."that's the way the statute is written," whether it makes sense or not.Pro2a said:Maybe I'm missing something....
If nothing is required, then why is an "instructor"/qualified person even needed to sign off on the application in the first place?
Hansen
Member
deanq said:Not trying to be a wise ass but...."that's the way the statute is written," whether it makes sense or not.Pro2a said:Maybe I'm missing something....
If nothing is required, then why is an "instructor"/qualified person even needed to sign off on the application in the first place?
All DPS wants (besides money) is a person with an NRA Instructor number to sign the certificate of training off. The application is NOT signed off by anyone but the student. There are NO requirements what a class has to consist of at all. That part was abolished several years ago.
There are other ways to forgo the training aspect though.....
Hansen
Member
Pro2a said:Coming from an NRA instructor, I can't find any required content to be presented to AZ CCW applicants.
Is there really nothing required for a CCW course anymore?
Nothing is required now, that is why you see classes done via conference calls and in restaurants that are quick. You can spend 1 minute and be good.