308 battle rifle.
- Thread starter Elk34
- Start date
Welcome to ArizonaShooting.org!
Join today!
mike-jones
Member
- Joined
- May 15, 2018
- Messages
- 36
Im a M1A and Fal guy ..will post a few pics once I figure out how to
- Joined
- May 15, 2018
- Messages
- 202
I have been competing in action sports for almost 30 years, primarily using a .308/7.62x51 rifle as my long gun. I have a few different tools in my battle rifle tool chest: Standard M1A (iron sight), SOCOM 16 (Aimpoint T2), JP Enterprises LRP-07 (Vortex scope), and a Galil Ace (Leupold Carbine Optic). And the last couple years the Galil Ace has been my primary rifle. All of my rifles are proven reliable tools that I can count on to function and hit the targets as long as I do my part. However, if you forced me at gunpoint (maybe if there were 100 or so of you) to pick just one to keep I think it would have to be the Galil. I have put 4000-4500 rds through it in the last 2 years with only 1 failure (stuck casing, using questionable Malaysian surplus ammo).
The Galil just keeps running, I can hit 4-MOA sized targets out to 500 yards reliably with the LCO red dot, and it can have 50 rds (Magpul D-50 drum) on tap if needed since it uses the SR-25 pattern mags.
My 2 cents...
The Galil just keeps running, I can hit 4-MOA sized targets out to 500 yards reliably with the LCO red dot, and it can have 50 rds (Magpul D-50 drum) on tap if needed since it uses the SR-25 pattern mags.
My 2 cents...
outdoorplay
Member
Fal's are just awesome war guns, however they are rough on brass if you want to reload, and often hard on optics.
M1a's are light and very accurate, however it gets expensive to mount optics on them.
Though they aren't as tough as the former two, I am a big fan of the AR308. Reduce recoil, accurate if built right, readily available magazines, optics aren't a problem, if well maintained they can last a long time. I they are very reliable if built right. When ordering parts on the cheap it's better to have an adjustable gas block for tuning.
I don't know that you can go wrong with any of them though.
M1a's are light and very accurate, however it gets expensive to mount optics on them.
Though they aren't as tough as the former two, I am a big fan of the AR308. Reduce recoil, accurate if built right, readily available magazines, optics aren't a problem, if well maintained they can last a long time. I they are very reliable if built right. When ordering parts on the cheap it's better to have an adjustable gas block for tuning.
I don't know that you can go wrong with any of them though.
bigtony1963
Member
fal better rifle at least for me have both
outdoorplay said:
M1A's are "light"? I mean...they aren't anvils, but...light? I don't think I've ever heard anyone describe them as such, but...okay!
In any case...I had mentioned the HK91. But, truth be told...if I were looking to buy a first .308 semi-auto today, I probably wouldn't be buying an HK. I might look at the PTR-91, of course. But, depending on just how the final cost numbers shook out, I would VERY definitely be looking at an AR-10, or whatever other model names are now being used on .308 ARs.
r0ttie1
Member
mashed68 said:
I shoot steel out of my Cetme for that reason. Eats steel with no problems.
outdoorplay
Member
M1A's are "light"? I mean...they aren't anvils, but...light? I don't think I've ever heard anyone describe them as such, but...okay!
In any case...I had mentioned the HK91. But, truth be told...if I were looking to buy a first .308 semi-auto today, I probably wouldn't be buying an HK. I might look at the PTR-91, of course. But, depending on just how the final cost numbers shook out, I would VERY definitely be looking at an AR-10, or whatever other model names are now being used on .308 ARs.
[/quote]
My M1A match is lighter than my 16" 308AR and especially my fal. The rifles being discussed. I've never owned a HK91 or variant to compare. Also I typically prefer heavy barrels on my rifles. So yes to me an M1a with a bedded walnut stock is light.
Cheapskates like me who want to work out a good load that is consistent over distance and have an ammo can full of match ammo without digging into my kid's college funds...we care about brass and reloading.
That makes me even more in favor of an AR308 with a 1-8 power scope. That would be the most versatile and fun rifle in my opinion. With my reloads and an 8 power scope I can reach out to 750 yards without much trouble. I like to shoot at clay pigeons because they are easy to see and bio degrade so they don't leave a mess. If you are shooting at bigger targets I suppose you could go out even further.
But that's me you do you
In any case...I had mentioned the HK91. But, truth be told...if I were looking to buy a first .308 semi-auto today, I probably wouldn't be buying an HK. I might look at the PTR-91, of course. But, depending on just how the final cost numbers shook out, I would VERY definitely be looking at an AR-10, or whatever other model names are now being used on .308 ARs.
[/quote]
My M1A match is lighter than my 16" 308AR and especially my fal. The rifles being discussed. I've never owned a HK91 or variant to compare. Also I typically prefer heavy barrels on my rifles. So yes to me an M1a with a bedded walnut stock is light.
Cheapskates like me who want to work out a good load that is consistent over distance and have an ammo can full of match ammo without digging into my kid's college funds...we care about brass and reloading.
That makes me even more in favor of an AR308 with a 1-8 power scope. That would be the most versatile and fun rifle in my opinion. With my reloads and an 8 power scope I can reach out to 750 yards without much trouble. I like to shoot at clay pigeons because they are easy to see and bio degrade so they don't leave a mess. If you are shooting at bigger targets I suppose you could go out even further.
But that's me you do you
Rock Hardson
Member
I remember back in ‘89-‘90 at Shooters World, they had barrels of rifles around the columns in the store and some had HK 91’s in them for $600. I didn’t like the look of them back then. Now, I wish I would have picked up 5 or 6 of them.
I bought a PTR 91 back in 07 because I wasn’t going to pay HK prices back then. I wound up buying a HK91 off the old site for $1800 with 800 rounds of ammo in 2013. I love them both. I also own a Ruger SR762. That is a bad ass rifle too. Would like to have a FAL some day though.
I bought a PTR 91 back in 07 because I wasn’t going to pay HK prices back then. I wound up buying a HK91 off the old site for $1800 with 800 rounds of ammo in 2013. I love them both. I also own a Ruger SR762. That is a bad ass rifle too. Would like to have a FAL some day though.
negativenines
Member
FAL. Classic looks.
trickyrick
Member
i built my own....very proprietary....now i have lots of extra parts that don't fit...lol
