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Consider this self-evaluation of your skills and supplies.

Sept 11th is just next week and one of the largest multi-state terrorism events since the last 9/11 is due to occur.

How are your supplies? Backup water? Extra items to cover the short and long-term loss of supplies?

I'll start: Live 50% off the grid in a rural area of AZ with our own well on generator, at least 30 days of good food available (at least 1 yr of MREs and canned crap) with medical and ammo to last. Got neighbors that do the same.

Oh and some hungry dogs for those who say, "I'll just come to your place and steal your crap". Dogs have to eat too!
 
I'm not going to be of any help, I've been here for over a decade. That so-called SHTF scenario we live on a daily basis.
 
Yep, I have been to Concho...hung out with a few members there. I thought I was anxious....nothing compared to their preps though.... :clap:
 
Miker12 said:
Yep, I have been to Concho...hung out with a few members there. I thought I was anxious....nothing compared to their preps though.... :clap:

There are?

Most folks here live the prepper life everyday, and twice on Sunday. Most folks are tight lipped when asked questions, regardless of the question. Folks have animals, some a lot more than others. The only hic-up I see is if the feed stores can't get restocked.
 
Steve_In_29 said:
If you want to see serious preps...wander over to survivalistboards.com

Been reading off and on there, just like anything it has good info, and some not so much. Signed up this morning, still waiting for the conformation email. Maybe some things are worth the wait.
 
Stay off the non-survival sub-forums to avoid most of the static.

Just like anywhere they do attract trolls and other scum though.

It is also an international forum so be prepared for SJWs from outside the USA trying to tell us how to run our Country.
 
OK now you know that "something" will happen Sept 11th but you said you couldn't prep in time. You have less than 14 hrs before SHTF. Whatcha goin to do?

Me: fill all my gas tanks up including my spare 5-gallon sitting in the garage. Top off my propane tanks. Already had the septic tank cleaner come by last week to vacuum out my Shite so that will be give me another 4 to 6 yrs of crap to do. In the morning I hit up Costco to get some more non-perishable foods that I thought I had enough of and that extra box of Clorox bleach bottles. Also I noticed over the last week that my cash reserve was down so I went and pulled another $500 in cash (in $20s) to store away.

What are you thinking?
 
I'm thinking you should already have had more than just 5gal of spare gas on hand, I have a 1000gal propane tank so not worried, have the better part of a years worth of food so no last minute shopping trips and WELL more than $500 on hand. Heck I have over $400 in just mad money in my pocket right now.
 
Steve_In_29 said:
I'm thinking you should already have had more than just 5gal of spare gas on hand, I have a 1000gal propane tank so not worried, have the better part of a years worth of food so no last minute shopping trips and WELL more than $500 on hand. Heck I have over $400 in just mad money in my pocket right now.

Pretty much the same here, with maybe some bonuses. Only a 500gal propane tank, and that'll last 3yrs, longer if I ever built a solar water preheater. Solar power so no power issues as far as that goes. Those special meat chickens, and boy do they grow fast, and they go through 50Lbs of food a week. No real need to store fuel, we just don't use it like you think. Built a small generator, runs 11-12hrs on just under a gallon of fuel. Low output and D/C for batteries, nothing fancy but works great.

Never heard what's supposed to happen the 11th but as the day goes on I don't think anything is going to change either.

Steve.....I hope you have a water tank and not just the well part. Know folks that live out there in Texas, when they lost power they had no water for a week, even though they have a well. Around here we pump water into a tank, that way if something happens to the well pump or whatever we have water.
 
AZGEEZER said:
Steve_In_29 said:
I'm thinking you should already have had more than just 5gal of spare gas on hand, I have a 1000gal propane tank so not worried, have the better part of a years worth of food so no last minute shopping trips and WELL more than $500 on hand. Heck I have over $400 in just mad money in my pocket right now.

Pretty much the same here, with maybe some bonuses. Only a 500gal propane tank, and that'll last 3yrs, longer if I ever built a solar water preheater. Solar power so no power issues as far as that goes. Those special meat chickens, and boy do they grow fast, and they go through 50Lbs of food a week. No real need to store fuel, we just don't use it like you think. Built a small generator, runs 11-12hrs on just under a gallon of fuel. Low output and D/C for batteries, nothing fancy but works great.

Never heard what's supposed to happen the 11th but as the day goes on I don't think anything is going to change either.

Steve.....I hope you have a water tank and not just the well part. Know folks that live out there in Texas, when they lost power they had no water for a week, even though they have a well. Around here we pump water into a tank, that way if something happens to the well pump or whatever we have water.
The cheapest way to fix that problem is an inverter for you vehicle. Plug it in and it will power the well good enough to drink/flush/bathe etc.
You do have your well wired to accept an extension cord for power if needed, right?
 
AZGEEZER said:
Steve_In_29 said:
I'm thinking you should already have had more than just 5gal of spare gas on hand, I have a 1000gal propane tank so not worried, have the better part of a years worth of food so no last minute shopping trips and WELL more than $500 on hand. Heck I have over $400 in just mad money in my pocket right now.

Pretty much the same here, with maybe some bonuses. Only a 500gal propane tank, and that'll last 3yrs, longer if I ever built a solar water preheater. Solar power so no power issues as far as that goes. Those special meat chickens, and boy do they grow fast, and they go through 50Lbs of food a week. No real need to store fuel, we just don't use it like you think. Built a small generator, runs 11-12hrs on just under a gallon of fuel. Low output and D/C for batteries, nothing fancy but works great.

Never heard what's supposed to happen the 11th but as the day goes on I don't think anything is going to change either.

Steve.....I hope you have a water tank and not just the well part. Know folks that live out there in Texas, when they lost power they had no water for a week, even though they have a well. Around here we pump water into a tank, that way if something happens to the well pump or whatever we have water.
I don't have a tank yet but we are looking into switching well pump out for a dual power (elec/solar) one and adding a 2500gal tank. Just have some more pressing things to spend $5K on right now. Though my well has started to loose prime when we have been gone for a few weeks, so might have to do it sooner rather than later.

The 1000gal of propane can power a genset, so still can have water if electric goes out.

I store fuel since diesel lasts pretty much forever and not much gas goes a long way when used in my Kawi Mule.

What is the cost/benefit ratio on those chickens going through 50lbs of feed like that. Is it they cost more then store bought meat but you just aren't dependent on the store or what? You can't free range them? My neighbor has egg layers and while I do know they need some feed, I think he mostly feeds them from scraps and bugs they forage for.
 
The chickens.... We get those for$1.90ea shipped and we order 25 chickens at a time. We lost 2 within 48hrs and we have 1 runt we put with the other egg layers. Those were born Aug 1 and they grow at different rates, so I went out just a bit ago and weighed 1 of the larger ones. After getting clawed I halfway weighed it and at 6wks of age it weighed right about 6Lbs.

The others (some) are smaller, so those I didn't weigh those at all. The feed is moistened cheap dog food, it has a 21% protien content and cost just under $20 for a 50Lb bag. Still cheaper than the high protien chicken feed.

The layers we let forage, we didn't for some time because the neighbors dogs killed 31 over time. Didn't replace them and almost got into a physical altercation over it. Wife is really attached to her chickens which got her real upset with them (neighbor). Like I wrote in another thread, everything wants to eat the chickens and you almost have to do 24/7 sentry duty.

If you do the math for 23 birds, and the food it really isn't bad per Lb.

And if your neighbor wants more eggs, just feed the chickens 2-3 cups (daily) of moistened dog food. It's an old trick of ours and we get lots of eggs. We have about 25-30 chickens (layers) and that's what we gauge the 2-3 cups on.

And when you get those meat birds, they hobble around. They don't walk all that well being so heavy and would rather just sit down and do nothing. Last batch the average weight after butchering was 4Lbs at 8wks old. This batch I'm letting go longer, about 12wks, for more meat. And the meat from the last batch was like jello, very tender and very filling when you eat it. The taste is slightly different, actually better since we use most of it in soup.

And it all comes down to knowing for a fact what is actually in the chicken your eating.

If you enjoy researching, go into duckduckgo and search "SENOMYX" in food. Don't use goofle or bing fr the search, they filter things.

And when/if you find that out look up HEK 293 and read. Same thing but they play word games with your mind.
 
I dunno to much about those types of well pumps. Ours sits at 250' with a static level of 190' with the entire depth of the well at 295'.

Just a regular 110V A/C that runs off the invertor which is run from the battery bank. Pumps at just over 5gal min but no need for a generator at all, and it uses 1200Wts. And the tank is 2500gal, and we pump water daily since the swamp cooler uses 150-200gal a day. And when we water the trees we go through 1500gal every 4-7 days.
 
AZGEEZER said:
The chickens.... We get those for$1.90ea shipped and we order 25 chickens at a time. We lost 2 within 48hrs and we have 1 runt we put with the other egg layers. Those were born Aug 1 and they grow at different rates, so I went out just a bit ago and weighed 1 of the larger ones. After getting clawed I halfway weighed it and at 6wks of age it weighed right about 6Lbs.

The others (some) are smaller, so those I didn't weigh those at all. The feed is moistened cheap dog food, it has a 21% protien content and cost just under $20 for a 50Lb bag. Still cheaper than the high protien chicken feed.

The layers we let forage, we didn't for some time because the neighbors dogs killed 31 over time. Didn't replace them and almost got into a physical altercation over it. Wife is really attached to her chickens which got her real upset with them (neighbor). Like I wrote in another thread, everything wants to eat the chickens and you almost have to do 24/7 sentry duty.

If you do the math for 23 birds, and the food it really isn't bad per Lb.

And if your neighbor wants more eggs, just feed the chickens 2-3 cups (daily) of moistened dog food. It's an old trick of ours and we get lots of eggs. We have about 25-30 chickens (layers) and that's what we gauge the 2-3 cups on.

And when you get those meat birds, they hobble around. They don't walk all that well being so heavy and would rather just sit down and do nothing. Last batch the average weight after butchering was 4Lbs at 8wks old. This batch I'm letting go longer, about 12wks, for more meat. And the meat from the last batch was like jello, very tender and very filling when you eat it. The taste is slightly different, actually better since we use most of it in soup.

And it all comes down to knowing for a fact what is actually in the chicken your eating.

If you enjoy researching, go into duckduckgo and search "SENOMYX" in food. Don't use goofle or bing fr the search, they filter things.

And when/if you find that out look up HEK 293 and read. Same thing but they play word games with your mind.

I hope you took out the neighbors dogs for eating your food.
 
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