Woman accused of shooting alleged shoplifter at Phoenix Circle K

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Anyone have any additional info on this, does not sound like a good shoot from this report.

https://www.azfamily.com/news/woman-accused-of-shooting-alleged-shoplifter-phoenix-circle-k/article_4c396bb0-29f6-11ec-9825-cbe71efeefee.html?block_id=667537
 
Had she only followed the dictum of KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT....
maybe...just maybe, with the help of good cousel, she'd be okay in the end.
Alas......
 
Legally,...a bad shoot.


Morally,...f@#k that guy.


I don't expect her to fare well at trial,...but I hope she does.
 
People like here give responsible gun owners a bad reputation, and only serve as examples for the anti-gun crowd.
 
QuietM4 said:
People like here give responsible gun owners a bad reputation, and only serve as examples for the anti-gun crowd.


Flash said:
Yes, and this board is getting to where it's full of them.

You're not a tree here, you can leave at any time you choose, or not participate. Pretty easy solution right???

Clyde
 
kenpoprofessor said:
QuietM4 said:
People like here give responsible gun owners a bad reputation, and only serve as examples for the anti-gun crowd.


Flash said:
Yes, and this board is getting to where it's full of them.

You're not a tree here, you can leave at any time you choose, or not participate. Pretty easy solution right???

Clyde

You misread what Quiet M4 was trying to say because of a misspelling.
 
Relax, Clyde...my phone auto-corrected "her" into "here". I would have thought you could have inferred the mistake by realizing the incredibly poor grammar it caused, but you got out your "Jump To Conclusions" mat instead.

Let's break the situation down;
1. Not her store or property/home.
2. She engaged the shoplifter by following him into the store.
3. No ones life was in danger by any action of the shoplifter.
4. The shoplifter had no weapon.
5. She shot him in the back as he was leaving.
6. Incredibly poor marksmanship; aimed for legs, hit his back.

Is any of that behavior you condone in a responsible gun owner? She could be brought up on 2nd degree attempted murder charges.

People shouldn't steal beer, or anything. But it's not worth a potential loss of life.
 
And here we go.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/retail-theft-on-a-massive-scale-father-daughter-duo-sentenced-in-multimillion-dollar-shoplifting-scheme/ar-AAPqOps?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531
 
QuietM4 said:
Relax, Clyde...my phone auto-corrected "her" into "here". I would have thought you could have inferred the mistake by realizing the incredibly poor grammar it caused, but you got out your "Jump To Conclusions" mat instead.

Let's break the situation down;
1. Not her store or property/home.
2. She engaged the shoplifter by following him into the store.
3. No ones life was in danger by any action of the shoplifter.
4. The shoplifter had no weapon.
5. She shot him in the back as he was leaving.
6. Incredibly poor marksmanship; aimed for legs, hit his back.

Is any of that behavior you condone in a responsible gun owner? She could be brought up on 2nd degree attempted murder charges.

People shouldn't steal beer, or anything. But it's not worth a potential loss of life.

People stealing need consequences, severe enough to deter them from doing something similar in the future.

Clyde
 
kenpoprofessor said:
QuietM4 said:
Relax, Clyde...my phone auto-corrected "her" into "here". I would have thought you could have inferred the mistake by realizing the incredibly poor grammar it caused, but you got out your "Jump To Conclusions" mat instead.

Let's break the situation down;
1. Not her store or property/home.
2. She engaged the shoplifter by following him into the store.
3. No ones life was in danger by any action of the shoplifter.
4. The shoplifter had no weapon.
5. She shot him in the back as he was leaving.
6. Incredibly poor marksmanship; aimed for legs, hit his back.

Is any of that behavior you condone in a responsible gun owner? She could be brought up on 2nd degree attempted murder charges.

People shouldn't steal beer, or anything. But it's not worth a potential loss of life.

People stealing need consequences, severe enough to deter them from doing something similar in the future.

Clyde

It's crazy if you were to steal in front of a cop and ran from them, what would be the consequences? Would they possibly chase or would they draw down on you to detain you?

Back in the day you stole horses, they hung your ass. Why? Because it interfered with someones means of living and possible survival.

What changed? People always want to gatekeep on what they say they would do. Who knows maybe that person had enough of people stealing from them and creating a stressful and dangerous workplace.

Someone breaking in our home armed or not can risk facing dire consequences. This shouldn't change anywhere especially with stand your ground laws.
 
Suck My Glock said:
Legally,...a bad shoot.

I don't expect her to fare well at trial,...but I hope she does.

I don't see how she can do well at trial, she overstepped in several areas, then used deadly force when she wasn't in mortal danger...

But hey, what do I know?
 
So, if any of us see an 5 year old kid pocket a candy bar, we can shoot him?

Stand your ground does not apply to this situation. Castle doctrine does not apply to this situation.

I highly doubt that woman has ever taken a CCW course. If she did, whomever taught it owes her her money back.
 
QuietM4 said:
So, if any of us see an 5 year old kid pocket a candy bar, we can shoot him?

Stand your ground does not apply to this situation. Castle doctrine does not apply to this situation.

I highly doubt that woman has ever taken a CCW course. If she did, whomever taught it owes her her money back.

Hyperbole and you damn well know it is.


Clyde
 
Of course it is, I was making a point. Since you think you can make up laws, and decide how they should be enforced, what age do you find acceptable to use lethal force on for shoplifting?
 
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