Why not Video Games?

[Harrier]

It's not just video games...They do desensitize people to violence, but so do violent movies. It's also simple lack of human contact. One of the reasons people can be assholes to each other on these boards is because it's not face-to-face. Some of you might talk a big game, but saying shit to a real person, face to face, is a lot different.

These basement dwelling, anti-social murders have spent their lives looking down at screens and not interacting with real people. They don't have simple empathy, respect or connections to real people. Just look at your kids when they forget they are talking to their friends on the xbox vs talking to dad.

I grew up on westerns and war movies. I had guns, like most of you did, at a very early age. I never, ever contemplated anything like what these people do and neither did most of you. But, we had real friends, spent most of our time in school or outside playing. We weren't spending 8 hours a day staring at the screen, were we out playing "war" or "cowboys and Indians" with real people.

Bingo...

VG may not be the 'cause' but they sure do a lot in desensitizing people from real feelings or the consequences of their actions...
I don't think they should be outlawed nor regulated but recognized as a possible contributing factor. As mentioned, parenting is the issue.

 

[Cubiclerevolt]

VG may not be the 'cause' but they sure do a lot in desensitizing people from real feelings or the consequences of their actions...
I don't think they should be outlawed nor regulated but recognized as a possible contributing factor. As mentioned, parenting is the issue.

It's funny you should say that as playing sandbox type games (Such as GTA and Red Dead Redemption) i'm actually doing things like chasing down robbers and helping little old ladies across the street in game. Usually when presented with a choice to take the job for more money I turn it down.

I actually feel bad for characters in game and will try to help them. Like I can't even be a bad guy in a game if I wanted to and just mow people down. It's just who I am lol.

 

[shooter444]

REPEAT,...

I believe,...the mentally deficient individuals who can be triggered to social violence by a Video Game,... will find another trigger if Video games are restricted/regulated.

There is no eliminating insanity,... never has been,... never will be,... or, mother earth would be rid of it by now.

The conflicts within the human condition, are eternal,... live with it!

 

[Basher]

Wait confused? I was trying to flex on anyone. I was trying to give insight to people who are unfamiliar to this. Kind of like how Anti gun people are without understanding what they are talking about.

Not you, the OP. Then somebody convoluted what I sad as bait to try to gaslight.

:lol:

Just calling it like I see it! Your second paragraph made an inanimate object that the USER controls out to be a very bad, no good, evil thing. Wrong. It’s a thing. How the user chooses to apply it is key. The fact that you were so outraged and revolted that you immediately destroyed a harmless disc of plastic out of disgust shows that a) you struggle to separate reality from fiction, and b) you at least realize that and removed the trigger.

Good for you for knowing your limits for offense, but the fact that they’re so low is part of the problem here. When the option exists in the game to bypass the offending material, and a warning of it is even included (that, if memory serves, you have to acknowledge TWICE) and yet people still willingly choose to participate and are then surprised, offended and feel the need to blame the object, well...

 

[Joelafives]

LTC David Grossman would agree with you. "He specialized in the study of the psychology of killing (a discipline which he labels "killology"). In "Stop Teaching Our Kids to Kill: A Call to Action Against TV, Movie and Video Game Violence", Grossman argues that the techniques used by armies to train soldiers to kill are mirrored in certain types of video games. The conclusion he draws is that playing violent video games, particularly light gun shooters of the first-person shooter-variety (where the player holds a weapon-like game controller), train children in the use of weapons and, more importantly, harden them emotionally to the task of murder by simulating the killing of hundreds or thousands of opponents in a single typical video game. Grossman uses blunt language that draws the ire of gamers—during the heights of video game controversy, he was interviewed on the content of his books, and repeatedly used the term "murder simulator" to describe first-person shooter games."

 

[shooter444]

I don't find anything wrong with hardening anyone emotionally to the task of killing an enemy! Got to many pansy ass snowflakes as it is, could use a few more self motivated survivors in the world !!!

What I think is most important,... is to teach proper MORAL COMPASS, at the same time!!!

AKA,... when, it is necessary to save life, by taking another,... as well as how to execute in a safe and efficient manner! Wouldn't want someone covering my 6, that wasn't hardened emotionally to self defense/killing.

Would you?

jmo

 

[Basher]

Guess we should ban flight simulators because you can simulate flying into buildings, train simulators because you can force them to derail, stuff like “The Sims” because you can make the characters do illicit acts, or racing games because you can intentionally crash into others...

Look, I get that exposure can lead to normalization. But calling them “murder simulators” is hyperbole and an obvious appeal to emotion. If video games were solely to blame, then I and literally hundreds of thousands of others would have shot up countless malls already.

How can people not see that blaming the game is akin to blaming the gun? Why isn’t anyone blaming hunting for desensitizing people to killing when that’s literally what you’re doing? Can we all drop the liberal mindset here and be adults? If you don’t like guns, fine. Don’t buy them. Don’t like video games? Great, don’t buy them. There, that was easy, wasn’t it? Argument over, stop being a bunch of pusses and move on with life. :lol:

 

[Lynyrd]

Blaming a video game is almost as bad as blaming the gun. JMO.

 

[samnev]

Guess we should ban flight simulators because you can simulate flying into buildings, train simulators because you can force them to derail, stuff like “The Sims” because you can make the characters do illicit acts, or racing games because you can intentionally crash into others...

Look, I get that exposure can lead to normalization. But calling them “murder simulators” is hyperbole and an obvious appeal to emotion. If video games were solely to blame, then I and literally hundreds of thousands of others would have shot up countless malls already.

How can people not see that blaming the game is akin to blaming the gun? Why isn’t anyone blaming hunting for desensitizing people to killing when that’s literally what you’re doing? Can we all drop the liberal mindset here and be adults? If you don’t like guns, fine. Don’t buy them. Don’t like video games? Great, don’t buy them. There, that was easy, wasn’t it? Argument over, stop being a bunch of pusses and move on with life. :lol:

Well said. I agree with your post.

 

[mallic]

Oh yay, the video games are evil trope from the 80s, 90s, 00s, 10s, and today! The gift that keeps on giving. Pay no attention to the fact that hundreds of millions of people have played video games throughout their lives and are living perfectly normal/healthy lives. Let's use the same asinine logic anti-gunners use to justify banning guns that they are afraid of, but let's use it on virtual goods instead of physical ones! I know, continuously blaming inanimate objects will solve all of our problems!