Which bull-pup are top choices?

[Harrier]

I'm thinking I might like to acquire a bull-pup.
I don't know a whole lot about the specifics but would like a versatile 5.56 platform that takes AR mags and as a remote possibly, other aftermarket AR add-ons.

What are the top 3 choices and ballpark new/used price range ?

 

[QuietM4]

Bull pups are fun until you have a catastrophic failure under your cheek. Or have to change a magazine quickly. Or clear a malfunction.

Kel-Tec RDB or IWI Tavor seem to be the most popular choices.

 

[Pro2a]

Yes, seems like Tavor definitely holds the market share.
I’ve always been leery of spending that much, as I’ve heard that the bull pup design pulls or pushes on a bar that actuates the trigger, making it heavier and gritty.
That was a few years back, maybe they’ve improved the design.

 

[baby huey]

From reliability point of view the AUG is great. But they are all second place behind a good AR.

 

[baby huey]

To answer your question, top three would be AUG, Tavor and I’m not sure, maybe the PS90.

 

[Elk34]

Bull pups are fun until you have a catastrophic failure under your cheek. Or have to change a magazine quickly. Or clear a malfunction.

Kel-Tec RDB or IWI Tavor seem to be the most popular choices.

So are AR M4's untill you have a catastrophic failure. Have you ever had a catastrophic failure on a bull pup? My vote would be for the Steyr Aug.

 

[QuietM4]

Yes, I have seen a catastrophic failures on a bullpup and a standard M4.

Standard M4 - out of battery fire, upper receiver fractured into 3 pieces, mag blew out. Shooter had a small scratch on his left forearm. Shooter standing 4 feet away had a brass fragment embed in his shoulder...just pulled it out and applied band-aid.

Tavor - over charge on reloaded ammo, left side ejection port (right handed shooter) blew pieces of bolt face, plastic, and brass casing fragments into the shooters right cheek, shattering two teeth and fracturing his right cheek bone.

So yeah, a few inches can make a difference.

 

[Elk34]

Ok then I guess you better stick with the m4. In all my days of shooting, in the service and around the world I have only seen 4 major events with weapons. But I have to tell you any weapon can blow up and they all do. If I let the idea of a weapon blowing up scaring me into buying or not buying then I should stay at home and make cookies and play house. Sh!t happens. Bull pups are good, m4's are good, but in the end they can kill you.

 

[Jamnmike]

:violin: Oh snap! You mean my AR15 in the safe is gonna kill me in the end. Holy $h!t I better get rid of it................dun.dun.dun.. :violin:

 

[felixm24]

Hands down AUG NATO THE Reason DIE HARD Just kidding Its a good rifle and the nato takes AR mags

 

[Harrier]

I admit, as far as OOB, squibs and over charges ,I've had a few close calls over the years, but subconscious awareness of my rifle seems to have always saved the day... I must live in Kansas toto...

I've seen the AUG and it's clone, and the Tavor, of course. They are pricey fer sure... I've been shooting AR's since the 90's so was looking for something a little different... plus the idea of a SBR length without the tax is appealing...

 

[Dogslayer]

KM Arms M17S. A friend of mine has both the .308 and the 5.56. Made in Chandler Arizona. Excellent trigger, unlike most Bullpups.

 

[Elk34]

Looks good. How many rds does he have down range with it.

 

[trickyrick]

i don't own one but have seen pics in magazines....they look cool.

 

[Dogslayer]

Knowing him, quite a few... He has a Dill on press and has the money for plenty of shooting.

 

[Razai]

I had an AUG briefly back in 1993. Exceptional rifles. I have owned three Tavors. Also exceptional. I prefer the Tavor, but wouldn’t turn down either.

 

[Dangerruss]

I had a Tavor for a while but it didn't make me love it. I would like to have a AUG and the M17s looks interesting as well.

 

[tubfixer]

My Rdb runs great with Magpul mags, usgi mags fall out, known problem and I believe Keltec will fix it just never bothered, triggers not bad at all
Used to own the old Bushmaster m17

 

[Harrier]

That KM looks good... IIRC, it looks a little like the old Bushmaster - are they related?
ETA.. it looks like they are... From what I read online K&M started modifying the BM 17S to fix the problems and evolved into making their own.
I'll add it to the list.

A quick search of GB showed another maker... the DesertTech MDR - anyone have any trigger time with one of these? Looks like the frame can be converted to multiple calibers 556-308 etc

 

[was21]

Only have 15-20k through AUG.... a buddy swears by his tavor.
I’ll take the AUG any day .... nato stock for ar mag compatibility...
Easy barrel swaps... less than a minute if you are slow... have a 14” /16”/20”or the 24”(light or heavy).
FWIW..... YMMV