I understand that the price of ammo has gone out of orbit lately. But why? It seems to me the real piece of the equation is the primer that has become unbelievably expensive. Again, what is the reason for it? Has there been primer factories closing? Did the epa declare them hazardous? Is it just election year worries and the primers are this season’s toilet paper? Just a little enlightenment...
What is the reason?
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Its very simply supply and demand. No great conspiracy. Any company that produces widgets projects how many widgets they will sell and staffs up and buys materials accordingly.
No one could have predicted the Chinese flu and then Sad A$$ MFers rioting. With the corresponding record gun sales there will be a an equal rush on ammunition to feed them.
My local favorite range has slowed down but a few weeks back it was assholes and elbows with new shooters and first time gun buyers.
Add to that people who just feared that the 100 rds they had kept in the night stand dresser for 15 years wasnt going to be enough to fight off the hordes of people after their toilet paper when society broke down .. and
we just exhausted what was in the supply chain. Same as the silly toilet paper rush.
No one could have predicted the Chinese flu and then Sad A$$ MFers rioting. With the corresponding record gun sales there will be a an equal rush on ammunition to feed them.
My local favorite range has slowed down but a few weeks back it was assholes and elbows with new shooters and first time gun buyers.
Add to that people who just feared that the 100 rds they had kept in the night stand dresser for 15 years wasnt going to be enough to fight off the hordes of people after their toilet paper when society broke down .. and
we just exhausted what was in the supply chain. Same as the silly toilet paper rush.
samnev
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The shortage now is one reason I tend to over buy when things are not bat f245king crazy.
samnev
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samnev said:
dread_scott
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Not sure if serious? Pandemic, election year, riots? Election year alone this shit happens, but add in the other 2? Its kind of a no-brainer.
You see all the pictures and videos of antifa with guns as well? Its more than the 'normal' gun crowd buying weapons and ammo.
Also i've heard that only a couple different factories actually make primers, and those primers are split between being sold as stand alone primers and factory ammo. As someone else mentioned, supply and demand, although the demand is outrageous currently.
You see all the pictures and videos of antifa with guns as well? Its more than the 'normal' gun crowd buying weapons and ammo.
Also i've heard that only a couple different factories actually make primers, and those primers are split between being sold as stand alone primers and factory ammo. As someone else mentioned, supply and demand, although the demand is outrageous currently.
Suck My Glock
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During the last ammo panic, the lack of sufficient manufacturing infrastructure was rimfire. The manufacturers looked at the panic as temporary, so they didn't spend the big bucks increasing rimfire manufacturing capacity because they figured things would get back to normal in due time. It took them 3 years to realize that wasn't going to happen. Once they finally invested in increase manufacturing capacity for rimfire, the panic petered out rather quickly.
Primer manufacturing is the most expensive AND dangerous part of centerfire production. And unlike just adding more shifts to stampers and punches to churn out more brass casings and projectiles,...the individuals who don the hazmat suits and actually walk into the primer compound magazines to make them are not quickly or easily trained up and reproduced to have greater production.
Word has it that demand for factory ammo is so great at the moment, that all primers are being consumed in that endeavor, leaving almost none to distribute for reloaders. As Boriqua said,...not a conspiracy,...just supply and demand.
Suppliers are trying to supplement the primer supply chain by importing overseas supplies, like Fiocci, Wolf, Sellier & Bellot and CBC,...but that isn't as instantaneous as just calling in the order and getting it overnighted to a warehouse. Anyone who's ever been involved in the business of international shipping and dealing with Customs knows what I'm talking about. It takes nearly 3 months for a hazmat product like these to ship, arrive and sail through customs if everything goes well. Any little hiccup along the way, such as paperwork errors or payment delays on either end will make it all take even more time.
Primer manufacturing is the most expensive AND dangerous part of centerfire production. And unlike just adding more shifts to stampers and punches to churn out more brass casings and projectiles,...the individuals who don the hazmat suits and actually walk into the primer compound magazines to make them are not quickly or easily trained up and reproduced to have greater production.
Word has it that demand for factory ammo is so great at the moment, that all primers are being consumed in that endeavor, leaving almost none to distribute for reloaders. As Boriqua said,...not a conspiracy,...just supply and demand.
Suppliers are trying to supplement the primer supply chain by importing overseas supplies, like Fiocci, Wolf, Sellier & Bellot and CBC,...but that isn't as instantaneous as just calling in the order and getting it overnighted to a warehouse. Anyone who's ever been involved in the business of international shipping and dealing with Customs knows what I'm talking about. It takes nearly 3 months for a hazmat product like these to ship, arrive and sail through customs if everything goes well. Any little hiccup along the way, such as paperwork errors or payment delays on either end will make it all take even more time.
cool arrow
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Suck My Glock said:
^^^THIS, plus now that those brands are in stock more readily, and the "premium" brands are not, these lower end brands are fetching premium prices due to...yep, supply and demand.
action magic
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Is Econ 101 not taught anymore? Now is the time to have a HotDog cart to sell ammo from. wink wink...
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