What is going on with the homeless

[Boriqua]

Every city/state has issues with homeless. I spent most of my life stepping over or around them just going to work and back. When I first came out here I worked in the Van buren area and there were a couple camps but ..

Went to Sportsmans mesa yesterday meeting a board member for a little transaction and it was filled with homeless wandering around and in makeshift housing. That was new. I have been there dozens of times over the years and was approached not once but twice by beggars yesterday inside of 20 minutes.

Made me look around since I wasnt really paying attention and they were everywhere. They were always at the exits but whew .. something weird is going on.

Makes me no nevermind but .. just an observation. Something is in the water. Young healthy dudes too?? :think:

 

[AZ_Five56]

I know what you mean. It's gotten crazy.

The focus that I hear from a lot of those on the left is that we have to keep spending more to help the homeless, but it doesn't seem like the money is going to good use if the people are staying homeless and we keep producing more homeless people. I think we should be more concerned about why people are having to start living on the streets and plug that leak first before trying to bail out the water that is the current homeless problem. Otherwise, it'll probably never stop getting worse.

A lot of the new homeless people that I'm seeing are not the crazies that can't keep a job and put a roof over their head. I'm sure the scamdemic and the rising housing prices aren't helping.

 

[TheAccountant]

I think it’s a combination of heroin and the entitled, handout society that’s been created. I don’t know who is worse though - the ones begging on the corner or the ones who actually give them money.

 

[Ballistic Therapy]

Were they holding signs saying " Will work for ammo " ?

 

[Joe_Blacke]

Drug use is the primary cause. As states started to relax on “minor” drug offenses it gave room to let this problem grow. Then we started to decriminalize drugs and the problem exploded.

The light rail has made it even worse. Now they can easily spread out throughout the valley. Then of course the activist who fight any action to do something positive crashes headlong into our gutless political leadership.

This problem is going to get way worse, not better.

 

[Boriqua]

First guy yesterday was kind of weird. probably 6'2 190lbs, pretty buff and except for torn jeans, very well coiffed, white and handsome. Kicked off an ex Military vibe. Soft spoken and as soon as I told him "nah" he walked off but .. 50 yds away there was a HUGE banner in front of Sportsmans with 'We are hiring"

Poor guy .. I told him no and he went to another guy a bit older than I and he decided he was going to talk the homeless guys ear off. Must have held him in place for 10 min+. Almost felt sorry for the homeless guy.

Just never seen such a concentration so far east and back east the homeless were homeless for a reason. they were nasty and mostly druggies or mentally ill, muttering to spirits only they saw and filthy disgusting. Yesterdays offerings looked like guys that could work anywhere. To weird.

 

[Suck My Glock]

Well, there is always more of them during the good weather, since many migrate where the outdoor temps are less harsh. Once the temps get above 100, you tend to see less because there is a certain percentage who move on to cooler climes.

But also,...a great deal of them are mental defectives. And while I'm not one to spew leftist crap,...it is indeed true that our public healthcare system has been steadily doing less and and less for mental cases over the years. And thus, those who might have previously, with a little help, been functional enough to support themselves, now degrade to the point where they lose what little grip they have on living like the rest of us and have to live on the streets.

There has also been an activist effort in the last couple decades to stop enforcement against "urban camping". The reasoning has been that law enforcement efforts to shuttle homeless people along and out of wherever they have been residing was cruel. Why constantly push these people around, the logic goes, when their lives are so tragically upsidedown as it is. They need stability more than anyone else if they are ever to pull themselves up, so quit harassing them. That may be well intended and pure of heart, but the result has been that the homeless are simply more visible now. Had their numbers never increased, they still would have seemed to have increased in number. But they have indeed increased in number.

 

[Flash]

Mrs. Flash spent 31 years working for the County, 10 years working for Welfare, 10 years working for the County Hospital and the last 11 years working for County Mental Health.

She says that most of them have mental problems and are homeless because they want to be. County Mental Health tried bringing them into homes, motels, things like that and they took off the minute no one was watching.

They prefer living in the street.

 

[tripletap]

take a nice drive to your
local community bridges office- they are camped out in parking lots- my friend is a shrink and she has to step over them to get to open her doors

 

[oldslurrydog1]

Mrs. Flash spent 31 years working for the County, 10 years working for Welfare, 10 years working for the County Hospital and the last 31 years working for County Mental Health.

She says that most of them have mental problems and are homeless because they want to be. County Mental Health tried bringing them into homes, motels, things like that and they took off the minute no one was watching.

They prefer living in the street.

Hit the nail on the head. :clap:

 

[oldslurrydog1]

By the way. Has anyone traveled on Jefferson St between 15th Ave and 3rd Ave? Hundreds of tents. Turn S on 3rd Ave and there's more.

 

[Tenring]

Guessing lots are moving out of commiefornia like everyone else.

 

[Flash]

I doubt they're moving out of California as they get more welfare $$ there than any other state.

 

[oldslurrydog1]

I doubt they're moving out of California as they get more welfare $$ there than any other state.

This again

 

[Manitu]

One day before to long there is going to a flurry of delayed evictions that will swell those numbers.

 

[knockonit]

One day before to long there is going to a flurry of delayed evictions that will swell those numbers.

yip, be thinks this is in the works, folks should save a few ''dugats'' for that day, oughta be some ''deals'' to be had, bummer for the sellers or losers, but stupid does have its consequences
Rj

 

[AZ Husker]

My favorite hobby is beating them to the punch. When I see one headed my way I ask HIM for money. You should see the looks on their faces.

 

[Lobo2087]

I'm gonna move into rj's shop

 

[Kingjoey]

Yup, there's gonna be thousands more soon. Nothing worse than seeing homeless families. I remember seeing that during the recession, families living in tents because they couldn't find a job

 

[knockonit]

Yup, there's gonna be thousands more soon. Nothing worse than seeing homeless families. I remember seeing that during the recession, families living in tents because they couldn't find a job

Yeah, i'm thinking we are gonna see before end of year an ugly down turn, i've suspended any of my speculative building and purchases due to this, gonna see how it goes in the next 6 months, did sell all the rentals in last year, and my building, as i knew these mofos were gonna set it up so no one paid for shiat.

so, the future for some may be bleak, but they keep taking the payouts and not following thru with employment opportunities, so many jobs available now, not just in building biz, but all over, just ask any one
happy sunday
Rj