Visit to the U.K.

[Doc Holliday]

Three days ago, I woke up in Aberdeen, Scotland, after staying a week there and also in Dundee. It was finally time to go home... :clap:

During this trip I was able to have a face-to-face conversation with a few residents there, covering everything from gun control to Trump...and I've come to realize the U.K. is already lost, they just don't know it yet...

First of all, just about every 'man' under 40 there has a 'top knot/man bun/short pony tail' and wears skinny jeans. :roll:

Okay. I guess it's a hipster thing. Whatever.

During a two-hour session at a local 'pub', we talked (calmly) about guns, and one of the guys at the conference told me he thought guns were 'obscene'. I asked him what he would like to have if someone broke into his house in the middle of the night and he replied 'I have cameras all over my house, I would just give him what he wants and then he would leave'... I did my best not to laugh out loud and told him the cameras won't stop anything from happening, they're only good for historical documentation after the fact. I reminded him that without guns, he would be speaking German right now. I reminded him that criminals will always have guns, no matter how many laws are past. I reminded him that he has a right to defend his own life.

Nope, I didn't make a dent. No matter what I said, he kept insisting the U.S. needs to have immediate gun confiscation so 'all those mass shootings would stop' and it could be safe like the U.K. :think:

During the meeting I was there for, another Scottish 'gentleman' said the 'best thing anyone in the U.S. could do would be to put a bullet between Trumps eyes. (mods feel free to clean that up if you think it crosses the line, but I am only repeating what was said, I certainly don't espouse such views)

So, they absolutely hate guns and violence, but suddenly think it's okay to use both against those people they don't like...

I'm left wondering WHY they care so much about OUR politics and guns? Scotland, a country that threw away so many of their lives while fighting over hundreds of years for Scottish independence by recently voting to continue kissing The Crowns Ass and forgetting their long-ago dreams of freedom. Why do they worry about the guns over here in America? Why don't they worry about the guns in Somalia and the rest of Africa, where entire villages get wiped off the face of the Earth on a daily basis? Where the fully auto AK47 is the standard weapon of issue...Ah, that's right, Africa doesn't have anything to offer but poverty, once it's brought into a One World Gov't...it would cost too much to bring them into the 21st century...but take away the guns in America and there's a lot to be plundered.

Let's talk burkas for moment...I saw more of them in the U.K. during a week than I've seen in my entire life. Everywhere in the streets and airports over there. Full-sized posters on the streets for 'Arabic Culture and Customs' classes offered locally at the colleges. Plenty of 'Middle Eastern' restaurants on every corner. One day I caved and got a pizza at the 'American Diner' in Dundee, Scotland, owned by a guy who came over from Turkey four years ago. Looked just like a local '5 & Diner' place over here, done up 50s style. The multiculturalism there is staggering. So is the non-firearm crime. I was reading the local paper and there were stories about home invasions and robberies on almost every page. Alcoholism is a big problem over there, too.

Don't think I want to go back. I've seen enough...and it didn't leave a very good impression. :|

9 days total
10,000+ miles
7 flights roundtrip
5 airports
5 taxis
2 trains
1 day-long meeting on Aug 10
1 ceilidh
1 karaoke night
3 hotels
1 marching bagpipe band
5 cans of IRN BRU

HOWEVER....standing in the exact spot where my great-great grandfather and his son once lived....priceless.

 

[smithers599]

2017, 22 March: 2017 Westminster attack – Khalid Masood, a 52-year-old Islamist, drove a car into pedestrians on Westminster Bridge, killing four and injuring almost fifty. He ran into the grounds of the Palace of Westminster and fatally stabbed a police officer, before being shot dead by police. The attack was treated as an act of terrorism motivated by Islamic extremism.[54][55][56][57]

2017, 22 May: Manchester Arena bombing – An Islamist suicide bomber, 22-year-old Salman Abedi, blew himself up at Manchester Arena as people were leaving a concert, killing 22 and injuring 139. It became the deadliest terrorist attack in Britain since the 7/7 London bombings in 2005. Many of the victims were children or teenagers, the youngest being an eight-year-old girl.[58][59]

2017, 3 June: 2017 London Bridge attack – Three Islamists drove a van into pedestrians on London bridge before stabbing people in and around pubs in nearby Borough Market. Eight people were killed and at least 48 wounded.[60][61][62] The attackers were shot dead by police eight minutes after the incident was reported. All three were wearing fake suicide bomb vests.

2017, 19 June: Finsbury Park attack – Darren Osborne, a 47 year old British man, drove a van into Muslim worshippers near Finsbury Park Mosque, London. A man who had earlier collapsed and was receiving first aid died at the scene. The incident was investigated by counter-terrorism police as a terrorist attack.[63][64][65] On 23 June, Osborne was charged with terrorism-related murder and attempted murder.[66][67] In February 2018 at Woolwich Crown Court, he was found guilty on both counts[68] and was sentenced to life imprisonment.[69]

But they didn't have any mass shootings. Hooray, I guess?

 

[DuneShoot]

Interesting, thanks for sharing.

 

[xerts1191]

Great stuff Doc, I also would love to visit Scotland and stand where my ancestors may have once stood, after reading your post I may just visit on Google Earth and call it good!

 

[Steve_In_29]

Yeah the UK is toast.

The Scots voted to keep the welfare money flowing from England rather then for independence and their long sought freedom.

On another forum I am on they actually have a safe space sub-forum just for the UK members. Where us mean Americans aren't allowed (upon pain of a ban) to post about any of the things concerning their country that might make them cry.

It is an international forum yet no other country's sub-forum has that restriction placed on Americans.

 

[Bard]

I have been there, as well. My experiences weren't so negative, but I was there during the Obama regime, so hostilities towards the U.S. wasn't as bad. I have also been to Ireland and England. Totally different experiences in each. It's like a foreign tourist only going to New York, or just to California and thinking we are all like those retards....

 

[harleypower69]

Doc, I have raced the Isle of Man, I have hiked the length of Hadrian's Wall. I think you simply had shit luck in meeting those fellows. My motorcycle friends over there are gun lovers and though they have to play the licensing game they own shotguns and target rifles. Vehicle theft is rampant and just like here the crooks are mollycoddled by the coppers. Most do think Trump a buffoon but a better poison than Obama. I'll go back as I rather love riding those narrow twisty roads on a motorbike, enjoy drinking real beer in a real pub and of course sipping Islay Scotch.

 

[87jeep]

Had a 10day job in England in 08 with a LMP1 car . All the papers were talking about then was " what to do about the knifes".
They will be speaking Arabic with a british accent there within a 100 years. With not a ___ in sight...