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smithers599 said:
Am I wrong? Was his partner kind of useless and clueless?

I wouldn't go so far as to say it that way. To be fair, because the driver did his job well, there wasn't really anything for the guy riding shotgun to do except hang on. But had they been successfully stopped and immobilized,...THEN it would have been time for that guy to get out and rock that rifle to the best of his ability.

As it was, they were both fortunate it didn't come to that.

However, looking by the expression on the guy's face, he was obviously crapping his pants. I have to doubt whether he would have performed well when the excrement hit the oscillating wind driver. But who knows?!
 
smithers599 said:
Am I wrong? Was his partner kind of useless and clueless?

I remember reading about that encounter - and I seem to remember hearing that the driver was a former cop that was part of some sort of elite tactical unit... and his codriver was... well... "more junior." The difference in experience is seen in their responses. I didn't see anything in the co driver's response that was super negative... he was prepping for the next thing - if they'd gotten stopped... but the driver kept that from happening. I guess at the end - when the driver pops out and he's still sitting there - he shows some lack of action... Can't say how you'll respond when someone shoots at you - until someone shoots at you...
 
I am referring to the "junior" guy holding the gun like he had never held one before. For example, holding the carbine in one hand to keep it under control, instead of gripping the forend. (In addition to the look of fear on his face, compared to the driver, who looked determined and focused.)
 
smithers599 said:
I am referring to the "junior" guy holding the gun like he had never held one before. For example, holding the carbine in one hand to keep it under control, instead of gripping the forend. (In addition to the look of fear on his face, compared to the driver, who looked determined and focused.)

My read on it is this...
1) He was holding the carbine for the driver - he had a handgun in his other hand - and when the driver stops he hands him the carbine. That read to me as "his job" relative to that weapon.
2) He was afraid... OK... yep... I'd be afraid too if I'm getting shot at. I guarantee you that the driver had some element of fear in him as well - but his training, experience, and probably to some degree personality drove his actions / reactions. The only place where I looked at the junior guy and had a really negative reaction was at the very end - when the driver grabbed the carbine and jumped out of the vehicle - and he just sat there. The video ended - so we don't know if he ever popped out and went to support his partner - but unless their protocol dictated that one person always stay with the vehicle (not impossible) I'd have wanted him to go support his partner.

Just my 2 cents.
 
Attempted assassination of Sikh political leader in India at a temple appearance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdT9D7mFqok
 
https://rumble.com/v5x7g95-toxic-masculinity-tampa-deputy-breaks-window-with-bare-hands-then-takes-dow.html

I love how the Christmas decorations are still hanging off his arm.
 
Dang. Balls, bravery and good work.

Don’t worry, Kenpo will be along shortly to criticize the cops actions.
 
Joe_Blacke said:
Dang. Balls, bravery and good work.

Don’t worry, Kenpo will be along shortly to criticize the cops actions.

If they need to be criticized for being unsafe and stupid, I'll do that happily. Cops can't be criticized??? This isn't the case here, good shoot, better use of red dots on pistols.

Clyde
 
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