Tonto forest plans to screw us.

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Here are the plans, everyone needs to object!
California creeping in. This plan makes at least 300,000 acres wilderness areas NO MOTOR VEHICLES. That will also mean no shooting in most areas.

I’m getting sick of liberals encroaching on everything I like to do. And just like BLM and Game and fish. Conservatives don’t show up. Or object in any way. So, they do what the votes say. Which is always. No shooting, no hunting. No dispersed camping. No off-roading.

https://www.azbackroads.com/call-to-action/action-alert-massive-changes-to-the-tonto-forest/?fbclid=IwAR0UzsZX7I5BFTNFK_AO9o_0Vl-k4cshNpbzdo1pU94evQsWio7Ily2zo04
 
Comments entered but there needs to be a lot of them to have any affect. Here is the link to the actual page where comments can be submitted.

https://cara.fs2c.usda.gov/Public//CommentInput?Project=51592
 
Sent a comment objecting... Hope many others do the same. Please also socialize this plan in other like-minded forums and encourage folks to take action.
 
lol, you do realize that this is only a formality they must adhere too, they have already decided and invested X amount of dollars to this plan, and in fact usually and most likely will never change it.
just sharing my experience with any agency that supposedly has the public interest in mind.

i hate the fact you can never get any one of consequence to review issues, always a call back,
Rj
 
Sent a comment objecting... Hope many others do the same. Please also socialize this plan in other like-minded forums and encourage folks to take action.
 
knockonit said:
lol, you do realize that this is only a formality they must adhere too, they have already decided and invested X amount of dollars to this plan, and in fact usually and most likely will never change it.
just sharing my experience with any agency that supposedly has the public interest in mind.

i hate the fact you can never get any one of consequence to review issues, always a call back,
Rj

Engaging AZ Senators (when they are not commies) can help - as well as congressmen, to a lesser degree. In addition to sending the objection, I'm going to reach out to Debbie Lesko's office and see if they have a position on this and if they can assert influence.
 
Longhair1957 said:
Here are the plans, everyone needs to object!
California creeping in. This plan makes at least 300,000 acres wilderness areas NO MOTOR VEHICLES. That will also mean no shooting in most areas.

I’m getting sick of liberals encroaching on everything I like to do. And just like BLM and Game and fish. Conservatives don’t show up. Or object in any way. So, they do what the votes say. Which is always. No shooting, no hunting. No dispersed camping. No off-roading.

https://www.azbackroads.com/call-to-action/action-alert-massive-changes-to-the-tonto-forest/?fbclid=IwAR0UzsZX7I5BFTNFK_AO9o_0Vl-k4cshNpbzdo1pU94evQsWio7Ily2zo04
WOW! Thanx for posting this! I didn’t know about it and I did contact Tonto Forest and tell them I FULLY SUPPORTED THE PLAN. Why? Cuz’ I’m sick of all you fat asses tearing up the desert on your ATV’s, dirt bikes, and FWD’s. Yeah, “California creeping in” for sure-and OTHERS. Whaddaya call an “Arizonan” these days? A “conservative” from a liberal state who didn’t have the balls to stand their ground at home and ran like a scalded duck to Arizona in order to pretend to be all the things they wanted to be In Illinois, Massachusetts, New York, and of course California. You wanna shoot or see the the desert? Fine. Then put on some hiking boots (you know-those lug sole high top shoes you wear at the gun show to look tough) grab your rifle, ruck, and HIKE out into the desert LIKE A MAN and do so.


Now launch the hate.

PS-I don’t read comments or nastygrams but send them anyway if helps you to vent instead of kicking your dog.
 
There are better ways to handle the shtbrians on SXS destroying trail. Many trails in AZ dictate the kind of motor vehicle that can travel on them.

However, you can't outright ban a SXS from a trail. Many hunters use them during the season. More definition to this blanket BS is needed.
 
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