Thoughts on Bill Of Sales?

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BOS fags are the same ones running the HOA making everyone’s life miserable. They were also the kid that reminded the teacher she forgot to assign homework. 😂🤣

No one likes you.
Feelings mutual. No one likes whiny pricks that don’t have to buy something they don’t like the terms of but complain about it anyways. I understand the law. I sell most my stuff with a flash of a DL and a hand shake. Some items I ask for a bos and I always disclose it up front. If you don’t like it don’t buy it. But stop bitching about it
 
Feelings mutual. No one likes whiny pricks that don’t have to buy something they don’t like the terms of but complain about it anyways. I understand the law. I sell most my stuff with a flash of a DL and a hand shake. Some items I ask for a bos and I always disclose it up front. If you don’t like it don’t buy it. But stop bitching about it
Imagine coming into a thread that overwhelming is against you and you try to take on the king of the trolls.

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Don’t you have HOA violations to hand out? Oh wait the Jeep is broken so you gotta stay inside and tickle my balls. 😂🤣

-Doc Rumpleforeskin, King of the Poors.
 
HOAs are something we could agree on. Hence why I wouldnt have one.
I’m not pro selling restrictions. I’m pro cya for me given my line of work so sometimes I have to request a little reassurance. Some folks buying like reassurance the items not stolen. If it works that 2 folks like the terms then we make a deal. If not no worries.
I’m Not afraid of a keyboard warrior, but thank you for the lesson on who not to deal with.
Have a good evening Mr foreskin
 
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HOAs are something we could agree on. Hence why I wouldnt have one.
I’m not pro selling restrictions. I’m pro cya for me given my line of work so sometimes I have to request a little reassurance. Some folks buying like reassurance the items not stolen. If it works that 2 folks like the terms then we make a deal. If not no worries.
I’m Not afraid of a keyboard warrior, but thank you for the lesson on who not to deal with.
Have a good evening Mr foreskin
I didn’t attend 8 years of keyboard warrior school to be called “Mr.”

-Doc Rumpleforskin, King of the Poors

(I’m actually stating to like you but not your BOS. 😂🤣😂)
 
I am ambivalent to BOS. You all have great reasons and every gun guy I have dealt with has always been great. But 1 thing to consider is you meet and buy the gun then the guy turns around and calls the cops saying it was stolen. You really have no proof that you bought the gun.
 
I am ambivalent to BOS. You all have great reasons and every gun guy I have dealt with has always been great. But 1 thing to consider is you meet and buy the gun then the guy turns around and calls the cops saying it was stolen. You really have no proof that you bought the gun.
Uh huh 😱 Because pulling up the sale ad, your PM agreeing to purchase or your txt to meet up would just vanish.

I swear you guys make up more nonsense in your feeble minds than the gun grabbing lunatics we should be arguing against.

Some of you shouldn’t own firearms let alone be allowed on the internet.
 
HOA's can be a good thing or a bad thing. It totally depends on who's on the board and that is controlled by the residents who vote.

Got a good friend who's the President of a HOA and has been for years. I'd live in his HOA with no problems. Same for my current HOA. No problems whatsoever and cheap fees.
 
HOA's can be a good thing or a bad thing. It totally depends on who's on the board and that is controlled by the residents who vote.

Got a good friend who's the President of a HOA and has been for years. I'd live in his HOA with no problems. Same for my current HOA. No problems whatsoever and cheap fees.
I get it, some men don’t need to be told to keep their home nice and property presentable.

Renters on the other hand….
lol, monday follies am enjoying the parte'
Don’t just stand there. Pick up some lumber and start swinging. 🥳
 
Speaking as someone who has actually been contacted by LEO regarding a firearm I owned 20+ years ago; your BOS is completely and utterly worthless and a waste of everyone's time.

In 2006-ish I purchased a Cavalry Arms AR-15...you might remember the OG polymer lower that had the A2 stock fully built into the lower receiver; that's what I had. I bought it from Cav Arms at one of the Crossroads gun shows. I ended up selling it to some random person at another Crossroads gun show about 1 year later. No paperwork, no BOS, nothing. He gave me cash, I gave him the rifle.

Fast forward 10 years. One day I get home from work to find a business card from a Phx PD detective with a note on the back, "call me when you get a moment". So I call him. Long story short, the Cav Arms rifle I bought was traced back to me through NICS, since I was the first person to complete a 4473 on the rifle. The detective told me the rifle was found at a crime scene, but not involved in the crime...he just needed to track the history of the rifle as part of the investigatin. I simply told him that I had sold it to a person at a gun show, end of story. "OK, thanks".

That's all that happened. No black helicopters, no dog shooting, nothing. No admonshment for not recording the buyers name and info. Just a "OK, thanks for your time".

I don't know what imaginative scenario the BOS people think they are preventing from happening. The only thing that truly happens is that the firearm you are trying to sell will sit and not sell, becuase no one here is going to buy it from you becuase of your BOS BS.
 
Speaking as someone who has actually been contacted by LEO regarding a firearm I owned 20+ years ago; your BOS is completely and utterly worthless and a waste of everyone's time.

In 2006-ish I purchased a Cavalry Arms AR-15...you might remember the OG polymer lower that had the A2 stock fully built into the lower receiver; that's what I had. I bought it from Cav Arms at one of the Crossroads gun shows. I ended up selling it to some random person at another Crossroads gun show about 1 year later. No paperwork, no BOS, nothing. He gave me cash, I gave him the rifle.

Fast forward 10 years. One day I get home from work to find a business card from a Phx PD detective with a note on the back, "call me when you get a moment". So I call him. Long story short, the Cav Arms rifle I bought was traced back to me through NICS, since I was the first person to complete a 4473 on the rifle. The detective told me the rifle was found at a crime scene, but not involved in the crime...he just needed to track the history of the rifle as part of the investigatin. I simply told him that I had sold it to a person at a gun show, end of story. "OK, thanks".

That's all that happened. No black helicopters, no dog shooting, nothing. No admonshment for not recording the buyers name and info. Just a "OK, thanks for your time".

I don't know what imaginative scenario the BOS people think they are preventing from happening. The only thing that truly happens is that the firearm you are trying to sell will sit and not sell, becuase no one here is going to buy it from you becuase of your BOS BS.
The real crime committed was buying a homo gay POS Cavarms AR in the first place. I still can't believe people here on AZS sucked up to the uzi triangle and the crooks involved.
 
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Back in 1988, I was a manager of a pizza chain franchise. One of my employees had a beat up old H&R .32Long revolver that he wanted to sell for $40. I took him up on it. Several weeks later, when I caught him stealing from the store, I fired him. About a year after that, I needed some cash and decided to get rid of the H&R pistol. The local pawn shop loaned me $50, so I took the money and never went back for it.

About 3 months later, I get a call from a detective on the Phx.P.D. pawn shop detail. Turns out the gun was suspected as having been used in a homicide in California and had been stolen from the victim, and they were very keen to know how it came into my possession. I told them everything I knew. I was never accused of anything. There was never any follow up contact by anyone ever. The detective was quite familiar with how common (and legal) it is for guns here to be traded and sold as regular old property like any toaster or TV. I was never treated with any suspicion.
 
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When I still had a license to protect, I'd ask for their DL, then take a picture of it, propped against the gun or guns I was buying. FFL's need to show where it came from as well as where it went.

That said, a bill of sale or some record of the transaction can protect you from someone offering a (unknown to them!) hot item. And it may give you a chance to get your money back, if indeed it comes back stolen/lost.

Only had one in 20+ years, but it was bad enough....
There was a time when I would ask for one for firearm purchases - but I've stopped asking in that space because I understand the counter argument / concern about government tracing of sales.

I still do it for any private-party non-firearm purchase. My reason for doing it is less about being able to get my money back - and more about getting a statement from the seller that they are the owner of the product and are not selling me stolen goods. This buys me two layers of protection... The bigger one is that folks selling stolen stuff will generally ghost me when I ask - and I'm fine with that. The second is that if the don't ghost me and the item turns out to be stolen - I have some legal coverage showing that I had no intent to buy stolen goods and something that I can provide law enforcement to trace the purchase back to the seller. I've never had to use the 2nd layer - I suspect primarily because of the first. A couple of years ago I was in the market for a used production grade MIG welder. The first two that I found and inquired about immediately ghosted me when I told them I'd buy - but wanted a bill of sale and picture of the DL. Were they selling a stolen tool? I don't know... but I know that I didn't buy a stolen unit... :cool:
 
this subject is much like the 9mm versus .45 acp, dead horse, so what someone wants one, don't buy it, why whine about it, do what yer conscious tells you to do, jeebus we are all on a list, and the chances of identity theft these days is so prevalent, its rediculous,
i've had at least 8 or 9 inquiries from the alph boys and gals in regards to sales i've made in the last three decades, several in my understanding were involved in nar do well situations, nothing came of it, nor was i concerned.
its a bummer when something you want has consequences, but hey isn't that daily life. just saying
 
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