Thoughts on all the new gun owners

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We all had to buy or were gifted our first gun at some point, so how does that make the new guys different from anyone else here. I know a bunch of them are snowflakes but they have to start somewhere.

Some newbies might have been on the fence and kind of scared until the virus pushed them to get in line at the LGS, wait a week for NICS, like my friend and his wife.

I always do my best help anyone struggling or asking for help with firearms, especially newbies. In fact I even give advise when not asked for to experienced range Rambo's.....DONT POINT THAT GUN AT ME, (the ones that cop an attitude) do it again and I am POINTING MINE BACK AT YOU!
 
For me,...sweeping is BY FAR my most egregious violation one can commit,... newbie, or not!!!

From your previous sensible posts, Tenring, I will credit your latest with the benefit of the doubt, and take you statement of " POINTING MINE BACK AT YOU", as just a joking, flippant remark. :whistle:

Now,... I did caution a guest on my pistol range, after sweeping me, that I would disarm him and field strip his weapon, upon another sweep,... and then seed the wind block brush pile on the west side of the range with the parts.

But, as has been reported, I am just a mean and nasty ol'e f***! :shifty:
 
I'm a volunteer firearms instructor for G&F. Specifically, I teach the Wild Bunch class.

https://www.azgfd.com/shooting/basf/classes/

In the one hour classroom, I go over the basics, with a heavy dose of firearm safety. The folks that take the class for the most part know little to nothing about firearms. I make it pretty clear, if they are purchasing a firearm for personal or home protection, they need additional training.

After the class, we take them out on the range to shoot steel targets, both handgun and rifle. Each student is assigned to a coach. They shoot for 1-2 hours, or until we run out of ammo.

Have been doing this for a while now and have gotten some pretty positive feedback. I can say, the kids have a blast. Unfortunately, like everything else, we're temporarily shutdown.
 
shooter444 said:
Now,... I did caution a guest on my pistol range, after sweeping me, that I would disarm him and field strip his weapon, upon another sweep,... and then seed the wind block brush pile on the west side of the range with the parts.
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Now that is just mean and nasty shooter444....mean and nasty. :)
 
Joelgas1 said:
I think it’s important for the criminals to know law abiding citizens are protecting themselves more and more these days. It won’t completely stop violent crimes but I sure do hope it helps prevent them. Happy to live in AZ compared to some other states!
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+1 Same here.
 
My sister is an avowed Democratic Socialist. She bought a gun for the first time. She would still vote for Bernie Sanders.

You will find while most of us may be one issue voters on guns most of them are not. And that wont change.

So no I don't think this will change anyone's mind in major elections. However it may make them pause if a ballot initiative comes up regarding firearms.
 
82echo said:
I'm a volunteer firearms instructor for G&F. Specifically, I teach the Wild Bunch class.

https://www.azgfd.com/shooting/basf/classes/

In the one hour classroom, I go over the basics, with a heavy dose of firearm safety. The folks that take the class for the most part know little to nothing about firearms. I make it pretty clear, if they are purchasing a firearm for personal or home protection, they need additional training.

After the class, we take them out on the range to shoot steel targets, both handgun and rifle. Each student is assigned to a coach. They shoot for 1-2 hours, or until we run out of ammo.

Have been doing this for a while now and have gotten some pretty positive feedback. I can say, the kids have a blast. Unfortunately, like everything else, we're temporarily shutdown.
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That is really cool, I forward the Wild Bunch info to some newbie friends. Annie Oakley for the women on Thursday nights used to be free...been a while though.

Do you have any inside word on Avery re-opening?
 
No Big deal, It's happened before. Just sit back and have a cold one. If you have a friend, co-worker or neighbor that purchased a gun and wants you to show them how to use it. Be nice and teach them. Gun safety, dry fire (trigger pull and aiming). then live fire. They just might become a gun owner. If they don't there a good chance that you will pick up a new gun at a good price. Like Bob Marley said, " Don't worry, Be happy".
 
Tenring said:
82echo said:
I'm a volunteer firearms instructor for G&F. Specifically, I teach the Wild Bunch class.

https://www.azgfd.com/shooting/basf/classes/

In the one hour classroom, I go over the basics, with a heavy dose of firearm safety. The folks that take the class for the most part know little to nothing about firearms. I make it pretty clear, if they are purchasing a firearm for personal or home protection, they need additional training.

After the class, we take them out on the range to shoot steel targets, both handgun and rifle. Each student is assigned to a coach. They shoot for 1-2 hours, or until we run out of ammo.

Have been doing this for a while now and have gotten some pretty positive feedback. I can say, the kids have a blast. Unfortunately, like everything else, we're temporarily shutdown.
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That is really cool, I forward the Wild Bunch info to some newbie friends. Annie Oakley for the women on Thursday nights used to be free...been a while though.

Do you have any inside word on Avery re-opening?
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I wish I did. I sent a note to one of the range masters that is a friend of mine and haven't heard back. I was hoping they would open May 1, but would be surprised. If I hear anything, will post back. They shut down the classes during the summer, probably won't start up again until September or October.

The Annie Oakley class is taught by a woman that is a friend of mine. Ya, the class used to be free a long time ago. They dropped the class completely for a couple of years. Brought it back, but now has a cost. The classes are set up for the first Saturday of the month.
 
I'm just putting some cash together to buy the guns that the newbies are getting and realizing they don't need them. After the Obama panic I bought a G-17 from a newbie who bought it and then didn't want/need it anymore. Brand new in the tupperware container for $300. Don't think the prices will get that low but who knows.

dusty
 
Az desert rat 1 said:
No Big deal, It's happened before. Just sit back and have a cold one. If you have a friend, co-worker or neighbor that purchased a gun and wants you to show them how to use it. Be nice and teach them. Gun safety, dry fire (trigger pull and aiming). then live fire. They just might become a gun owner. If they don't there a good chance that you will pick up a new gun at a good price. Like Bob Marley said, " Don't worry, Be happy".
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A big +1 that's what I do with new shooters Iknow .
 
The only thing that sucks is, the shooting ranges will be full of new shooters. That means the range cadre will be extra sh!tbagish.
 
I don't think we really have to worry about the new handgun owners. I was in Sportsman's a while back. Two women were at the counter buying a handgun. The clerk, after they decided on the handgun asked them how much ammo they wanted to buy...they chose a 20 round box....I'm thinking they will never practice and are more likely to hurt themselves rather than protecting themselves....just sayin'...
 
AZ1182 said:
My POV:

We like to eat our own over the most stupidest things really. PSA blah blah just as good as a KAC. 9 versus everything else. Striker versus everything else. Glock versus the world. Pistol or SBR. Capacity or shot placement and training. Appendix or strong. Red dot or irions on an EDC. Even barrel lengths on an AR15. Poors getting mad at people spending money. Someone likes what we hate.

I'm indifferent. I don't care. I try to treat everyone with respect until they come across as rude or trying to undermine for inexplicable reasons of emotional attachments most likely.

What I am trying to say is, be like me, don't try to eat new owners. Why? Because F your feelings, these fence sitters VOTE!! That's WHY, so sit back down and simma down there, operator. We've got a prime opportunity to finally gain a foothold to wining the long game if we will all stop trying to be an ass. The short game is voting for people we think will protect us. But politicians come and go, that voter still stays the same. Don't eat the guy with a 380 or doesn't have a double stack. They may have gotten what they could because others bought everything else. We don't want to lose that voter or voters, because you can't refrain your suck from getting bent from derangement's.
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Well said. Very well said.
 
Spent an hour or so talking to a husband and wife, both late 30s, parents, new gun owners for around 12 months at this point. We've become friends as I run into them almost every week.

Thursday they told me they'd gone up to Rio Salado. Said they'd looked at the rules, the membership applications and, most importantly to them, they observed the Range Officers in action.

Bear in mind they shoot at least once a week at C2 Tactical and the behavior of the Range Officers there is all they know in the time they've been into shooting.

They said they were appalled at how the Rio Salado Range Officers acted and treated people. They're very safety conscious, have taken several classes, have their CCW permits and see a huge difference between the C2 ROs and the Rio ROs. Essentially they said the Rio ROs seem to be trained to be aholes and to escalate situations. I told them my experience at Rio mirrored theirs. I never got yelled at or reprimanded by a RO at Rio, but I saw they way they were and quit shooting at the Rifle and pistol range there over 10 years ago and I won't go back.

We definitely don't need ROs like at Rio turning new people against firearm people.
 
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