The uncomfortable question: what would a modern civil war look like?

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Miker12

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I rely heavily on social media and news apps to provide me with current news reports. It seems these days that the desire to open my social media apps is lessening. Every day the screen is filled with anger, outrage, and vitriol. I started keeping a list of specific topics for a few days, just to see if there was a trend.

Fifteen. That is fifteen different buzzwords that the people I follow, both friends and family, as well as major news channels, posted about on a daily basis. I won’t give you a comprehensive list, however, I’m sure if you were to keep track, our lists would look quite similar.

According to Foreign Policy, a modern-day civil war is going to consist of a diverse web of small actors that pop up in ideologically and economically marginalized communities. These cunning actors will feed on the suffering and fear of these communities.

They will become guerrillas, insurgents, rebel factions, and proxies. They will use conflicts that are composed of racial, religious, or economics and build on these crises. They will claim that their push for violence is the only solution.

They may focus on a tactic called Coordinated Disruption; a hybrid warfare focused on Homeland conflicts.

Foreign Policy states:

“Contemporary homeland conflicts would likely self-compose with numerous dynamic factions, organized by digital tools around ideological and affinity networks. It would likely be a patchwork of affiliated insurgency groups and their counterparts engaging in light skirmishes along the overlapping edges of their networks, mixed with occasional high-value terror attacks against soft and hard targets.”

They will use their digital networks to rile up support to commit violence against their targets.

If you have read to this point, then just pause for a moment to let that soak in.

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/we-are-at-a-breaking-point-what-will-a-modern-civil-war-look-like/
 
First of all, I think we're already in the midst of a civil war whether it's a cold war or not. I do think it will heat up, but I'm not sure we'll ever see full-on battles in a traditional sense.

I think you hit the nail on the head with guerrilla warfare. The people who are rising up in the streets and starting sh!t are a relatively small portion of the population. In a head to head battle, they would stand no chance at all. They would be quick and coordinated in large numbers hitting select targets and then dispersing as quickly as they came. In my mind, that's the only way they would stand a chance at continually knocking out targets, especially if armed citizens had to rise up to fight them.

Besides attacking specific people, businesses and government entities, I think warfare would include attacks on banking institutions. Think the Tyler Durden Fight Club approach. Whatever the radicals have been saying their war is against, they've slowly revealed that this is an economic and class war. Hopefully it never comes to anything like that, but I'm prepared for anything at this point.
 
AZ Husker said:
How would you identify the enemy? They just blend back into the crowd.

That would be their biggest strength and our complete nightmare. Got to catch them in the act.
 
If you have 15 minutes I highly recommend this to see the exact pattern the USA is following.

If you can find inaccuracies, please comment:

https://youtu.be/GEy4bfeBlrc
 
Depends on who the enemy is. If .gov, think of McVeigh style but multiple. If commies, then a 20 minute exchange of fire in a suburb where the commies die and then they others get pissed and rant on twitter then run to their campus safe zone.

And no, I am not planning to attack the feds or the left fringe. Just a theoretical discussion.
 
AstonMiura said:
https://youtu.be/vn9oWJJkUjo

Great analysis and they are right. Anything that has happened is because we've (Grassroots right) allows/allowed it to happen.

So when you speak on who's actually tolerant, the right is far more agreeable than the left claims they are.
 
I think this civil war will be insurgency vs insurgency. Just don't see the right organizing enough to have a unified army. It'll be leftists rioting and getting smokechecked by groups on the right that are sick of their shit.
 
You're all wrong. There won't be a "next civil war"

Stop being the general fighting the last war. What's staring everyone in the face is pure revolution and "our" side is losing big time. When You see cop and politicians kneeling before the mob and every business trying to out virtue signal the next, it's time to wake up.

The other side owns the media, education (for decades), the economic centers, banks, communication,
and a majority of fighting age men willing to go violent for their cause.

Civil wars generally have geographical boundaries. What state is going to declare independence? What do the uniforms look like? Who's going to control the national Guard with all its modern weapons? And most importantly, are you ready to invade California and purge it of the millions of commies, hell invade downtown Phoenix?

Tomorrow night I leave for Portland Oregon cause my kid is stuck behind enemy lines there. The mob burned his Jeep last month and he hasn't worked in 4 months so I gotta go get him. I have no intentions of going unarmed, wearing a mask, or removing my bumper stickers. I also have no intentions of complying to law enforcement demands if I'm molested in my journey because of such things (I won't be speeding)

Wish me luck. Good luck to you all
 
This reminds me of Dad's stories about Phx.P.D. plans back in the early 70's for what to do in case of widespread rioting. The big riots of L.A. and Detroit at that time were less than 8 years prior and Phoenix was rapidly growing into a major metro area. It only made sense to game out ahead of time what to do in case of this or that.

In 72', the overall plan was to quell the rioting and put down whatever uprising was occurring north of the river,...while simultaneously pulling all personnel back across said line.

Then let it burn.

I think that made a lot of sense, and it's too bad there isn't some way to let that play itself out today;...just evacuate the Americans and let the animals eat each other.
 
Hunter said:
You're all wrong. There won't be a "next civil war"

Stop being the general fighting the last war. What's staring everyone in the face is pure revolution and "our" side is losing big time. When You see cop and politicians kneeling before the mob and every business trying to out virtue signal the next, it's time to wake up.

The other side owns the media, education (for decades), the economic centers, banks, communication,
and a majority of fighting age men willing to go violent for their cause.

Civil wars generally have geographical boundaries. What state is going to declare independence? What do the uniforms look like? Who's going to control the national Guard with all its modern weapons? And most importantly, are you ready to invade California and purge it of the millions of commies, hell invade downtown Phoenix?

Tomorrow night I leave for Portland Oregon cause my kid is stuck behind enemy lines there. The mob burned his Jeep last month and he hasn't worked in 4 months so I gotta go get him. I have no intentions of going unarmed, wearing a mask, or removing my bumper stickers. I also have no intentions of complying to law enforcement demands if I'm molested in my journey because of such things (I won't be speeding)

Wish me luck. Good luck to you all
Wishing you and your son safe travels
 
I don’t exactly know what it will look like for anyone else, but my view will be superimposed by a Horus reticle.
 
QuietM4 said:
I don’t exactly know what it will look like for anyone else, but my view will be superimposed by a Horus reticle.

:lol: I think you've got the right idea. I'd rather experience it from far away as well.
 
AZ_Five56 said:
QuietM4 said:
I don’t exactly know what it will look like for anyone else, but my view will be superimposed by a Horus reticle.

:lol: I think you've got the right idea. I'd rather experience it from far away as well.

I'll throw my hat in to represent the poors. Vortex reticle...
 
Kingjoey said:
I think this civil war will be insurgency vs insurgency. Just don't see the right organizing enough to have a unified army. It'll be leftists rioting and getting smokechecked by groups on the right that are sick of their s***.

This guy wrote a nice article on this very issue. He lives in Portland and sees things upfront.

"The ultimate goal is to create a Deep State compliant government.

Engineered protest movements are carefully planned. They are intelligence ops. They use non-governmental organizations to recruit protesters.

Revolution and civil war like anything else nowadays is a business.

Has anyone noticed how what is happening in Portland, Oregon looks like what happened in the Ukraine, or Venezuela?

I have always pointed out that we are seeing the essence of Operation Condor where a South American experiment that began in 1973 was able to make an extreme exchange of power from one regime to another.

During the power exchange, the economic power of the people was devalued to a forced scarcity economy. Union organizations became militant and average citizens attempted unsuccessfully to arrest government officials.

They were met with lethal force. Many of those who rebelled were rounded up and placed in camps. The first to go were journalists, whistleblowers, and artists. There were also religious figures that were either blackmailed or exposed with manufactured stories of corruption. This caused hysteria and many unfortunate victims became known as the disappeared. "

https://www.groundzeromedia.org/7-20-20-helter-games-welcome-to-the-color-revolution/
 
You can prevent the civil war by removing certain individuals that would profit from the conflict from the scenario at the beginning. These people think they are safe and cannot be touched but will finance and instigate violence and turmoil among the "masses." In a closed society, they would be safe. In our open society they are not. They have yet to fully realize this, but will, quickly, in the event the balloon goes up.

They are the enemy that wish to turn this country into a 3rd world socialist oligarchy so they can profit financially and accrue more power. They are a far greater danger to our future than any outside threat. They have the financial power previously only held by nation states and truly believe that, because they are rich, they are anointed to live above and control everyone else.
 
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