The Mormon plan for active shooters

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“Churches are dedicated for the worship of God and as havens from the cares and concerns of the world,” the revised policy says. “With the exception of current law enforcement officers, the carrying of lethal weapons on church property, concealed or otherwise, is prohibited.”

Okay, then; here's the plan: If a psycho starts murdering people, everybody dedicate yourself to the worship of God, and don’t go thinking about the cares and concerns of the world. Ignore him and he’ll go away.
 
So, basically their plan is "Thoughts and Prayers". Maybe if they get enough "likes" it will work.

It must be nice to be so blissfully unaware of how the world works...
 
DrEarlCordova said:
Almost all the Mormons I know are anti gun.

Do you know like two random mormons or something?

I'm going to guess I know a shit ton more mormons than you and i honestly can't think of one that I've ever met that was openly anti-gun. The anti-gunners obviously exist but it's far from the norm. I've been shooting with dozens of different mormons including going to annual yearly shoots out in the desert with multiple wards where the activity is organized by the elders quorum leadership.

I will agree that the policy is retarded but not remotely surprising.
 
Never miss an opportunity to bash Mormons, right? :teasing-poke:

I think it would be rare for you to find an organization as large as that, that isn't a "gun organization" that openly invites people to carry weapons there. I guarantee you that policy is there and "clarified" due to potential liability concerns, which no organization is immune to.

That said, do you see them installing metal detectors or checking bags at the entrances? 'nuff said.
 
DrEarlCordova said:
Almost all the Mormons I know are anti gun.

I know lots of Mormans and not one of them is anti gun.
As a matter of fact they probably know more about processing game and how to keep it than most hunters I know.
 
The majority of my friends in HS were Mormon...at least one gun in every house. Mormons are very big on preparedness...food, water, gun(s), ammo.
 
admin said:
Never miss an opportunity to bash Mormons, right? :teasing-poke:

I think it would be rare for you to find an organization as large as that, that isn't a "gun organization" that openly invites people to carry weapons there. I guarantee you that policy is there and "clarified" due to potential liability concerns, which no organization is immune to.

That said, do you see them installing metal detectors or checking bags at the entrances? 'nuff said.

This....

Ya, majority are actually pro 2nd amendment (depends on the area of the country and politics of that area of course...AZ is mostly pro) and although it’s listed in “policy” there is no enforcement of that policy. Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints are more ready then people think or realize in many respects.......

However I’m just an internet person that no one knows, so I could be just a keyboard commando.
 
Question for the "leaders": If a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints violates that policy, and interrupts an active shooter, and shoots the SOB dead right there in the church, will that person be excoriated and excommunicated?
 
smithers599 said:
Question for the "leaders": If a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints violates that policy, and interrupts an active shooter, and shoots the SOB dead right there in the church, will that person be excoriated and excommunicated?

[I am not an LDS church leader] Absolutely not. You don't get "excommunicated" for violating a church policy. Excommunication is for egregious sins where the person is unrepentant. This policy is on the same level (quite literally) of "no open flames allowed inside the church". That's the policy that is the very next one after this one about weapons. ie, that gives you some perspective about the importance of it.
 
I'm 41 years old raised in the religion and was a active Mormon until 2 years ago. I will occasionally attend for a family thing at the church, but don't have the conviction I once did. The Church did teach me to always be prepared as best as possible. Food rations, water and of course 2nd amendment items. All of my family and extended family are Mormon and are all very well familllar with Guns. My friends in the church are also. It frustrates me that the Church has made this vocal decision. Gun Free Zones are bad! Especially now days.

Landon
 
You guys are all trying to make something out of nothing. This is not mormon doctrine. This is a policy that they clarified to remove the ambiguity for liability purposes. No different than not allowing open flames inside the church buildings. My guess is that 95% of mormons don't even know ANY of the policies in that handbook where this is published, whether they be about firearms, open flames or how the cleaning supplies should be stored in a church building. But don't let that stop a good Mormon-bashing thread, right?
 
If I were to randomly pick a group to phuck with it wouldnt be mormans.

Someone needs to do homework.

I know some pussified mormons and I know quite a few racist piece of shit mormons here in the DFW area but I dont know any antigun mormons, well except for pols.

I suggest the decisions made by the leadership and legal bean counters of any org not be accepted as being the same opinion as the rank and file or even enforced. Infact in this case I would seriously consider it bait.

Just sayin

ETA their "PLAN" sounds about like every "plan" put forth by a legal department in every group in the country. CYA language.

I've bought 2 houses from mormons and both were un cul-de-sacs where every home was bought new by a family of a local church. Became good friends with them all and seeing all the stuff and alterations made to mine and theirs, anti gun is not the first thing that comes to mind.

I say this not because I'm ignorant enough to think it translates to everyone everywherr but to suggest that we, especially pro gun types, not act like this over snippets of news and scream gotcha like pod people pointing and squealing "I knew you were anti American POS!"

Besides if you are not a mormon or going to a mormon church it's not your buisness, IMHO. I suspect others, who's buisness it is, are screaming quite loudly at the public announcement.
 
admin said:
You guys are all trying to make something out of nothing. This is not mormon doctrine. This is a policy that they clarified to remove the ambiguity for liability purposes. No different than not allowing open flames inside the church buildings. My guess is that 95% of mormons don't even know ANY of the policies in that handbook where this is published, whether they be about firearms, open flames or how the cleaning supplies should be stored in a church building. But don't let that stop a good Mormon-bashing thread, right?



I am not getting the impression that this is a "Mormon bashing thread". Why get your hackles up?
 
big deal about nada, mormon is, mormon does, what does it matter to a non mormon, just wondering why its gotta be a big deal, i get the no gun thingy, but its not just a mormon thing ..........is it. ?
 
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