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A_C Guy said:
Cubiclerevolt said:
Ah are you reading NIV?
No, I don't read the NIV.
Cubiclerevolt said:
"And the Lord said to Gideon, The people are still too many. Take them down to the water, and I will test them for you there

There are various translations to English from Hebrew and Greek. Since you haven't referenced either, how would you KNOW which is correct?
Is it the one that references lapping like a dog to the men on all fours drinking from the stream (like a dog)?
Or is it the one that references standing by the stream lifting the water to their mouth in their hand and drinking (unlike a dog)
There are a few differences between the Greek Septuagint and the original Hebrew scripts. When comparing those differences to the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Greek Septuagint is correct about 90% of the time.

Yes I agree, neither do I as I was being sure, I use ESV and paraphrased and referenced it in my response to you. I am not one of those if it aint King Jmaes, it aint bible types either. I just find ESV to be one of the more complete translations through my college study.
 
A_C Guy said:
kenpoprofessor said:
If anyone wants to force their beliefs on me, they are my enemy, period.
I have never forced my beliefs on others. Quite to the contrary for many atheists, as they seem to feel they are entitled to belittle persons of faith.
kenpoprofessor said:
maybe you should understand that there are non theists out there that do have a sense of morality, and it didn't come from Biblical scriptures. Inherently, we are programmed to know right from wrong,
As you said, we are programmed to know right from wrong by our creator, God.
kenpoprofessor said:
but, there's always some with that information not written in their DNA, they have brain issues that cause them to do unheard of things. Schizophrenia, Bi-Polar, etc., are issues that, according to you, god created,
God did not create those things. Those flaws are the result of man's choices through the centuries. Most notably man's choice to try to deny God's existence.
kenpoprofessor said:
man has to deal with.
That is known as dealing with the consequences of poor choices. Everyone makes a poor decision at some point and we must deal with the consequence of that poor choice or decision.
kenpoprofessor said:
People say that God is perfection, but, there's living proof that is untrue. If it were, we'd live in Utopia.
There is no living proof that God is not perfect. You can not make such a statement because you do not know God, you have never met God, so such a statement is foolishness. Utopia is a man created fantasy. Utopia was never promised to man and because of man's sin, or if you prefer, man's selfish wants and desires, is completely unobtainable. What is Utopia for one man could be unbearable for another. Demanding Utopia is just another form of sin; it is foolishness.

+1 in all of this.

Always leads back to Romans 1:20 as well.
 
smithers599 said:
There is only one thing I am absolutely sure of about God: She's black.
As was written, "choose this day which God you shall serve"
Your god can be anything or anyone or any color of your choice. But if you choose wrong.....
 
Monty Python settled the religious questions here already: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2usg7s
2:20 in Video "God Exists by two Falls and a Submission"
 
Cubiclerevolt said:
A_C Guy said:
kenpoprofessor said:
If anyone wants to force their beliefs on me, they are my enemy, period.
I have never forced my beliefs on others. Quite to the contrary for many atheists, as they seem to feel they are entitled to belittle persons of faith.
kenpoprofessor said:
maybe you should understand that there are non theists out there that do have a sense of morality, and it didn't come from Biblical scriptures. Inherently, we are programmed to know right from wrong,
As you said, we are programmed to know right from wrong by our creator, God.
kenpoprofessor said:
but, there's always some with that information not written in their DNA, they have brain issues that cause them to do unheard of things. Schizophrenia, Bi-Polar, etc., are issues that, according to you, god created,
God did not create those things. Those flaws are the result of man's choices through the centuries. Most notably man's choice to try to deny God's existence.
kenpoprofessor said:
man has to deal with.
That is known as dealing with the consequences of poor choices. Everyone makes a poor decision at some point and we must deal with the consequence of that poor choice or decision.
kenpoprofessor said:
People say that God is perfection, but, there's living proof that is untrue. If it were, we'd live in Utopia.
There is no living proof that God is not perfect. You can not make such a statement because you do not know God, you have never met God, so such a statement is foolishness. Utopia is a man created fantasy. Utopia was never promised to man and because of man's sin, or if you prefer, man's selfish wants and desires, is completely unobtainable. What is Utopia for one man could be unbearable for another. Demanding Utopia is just another form of sin; it is foolishness.

+1 in all of this.

Always leads back to Romans 1:20 as well.

Agreed - it always leads back to Romans 1:20

For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,
 
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