Silencers Bill starting up Jan 30th

[Miker12]

The Silencers Helping Us Save Hearing, or SHUSH, Act was introduced on Jan. 30 by U.S. Sen. Mike Lee, a Utah Republican, and has four co-sponsors, all from the GOP. The language of the five-page bill deletes all federal regulations-- including taxes, fees, and registration requirements-- of suppressors. Those who paid a transfer tax for such safety accessories in the two years before the bill's enactment would get a refund.

"Despite what Hollywood may lead you to believe, silencers aren’t silent, and they aren’t just for secret agents," said Lee in a statement. "They are a vital tool for hearing protection for countless marksmen and gun enthusiasts across America, and making them prohibitively difficult to obtain is an assault on the 2nd Amendment. The SHUSH Act eliminates federal regulation of silencers and treats them as the non-lethal accessory that they are."

U.S. Rep. Michael Cloud (R-Texas) will spearhead the bill in the House, where it will join a stack of suppressor reform legislation that includes the Hearing Protection Act.

https://www.lee.senate.gov/services/files/6FF16693-375A-4212-99FC-8D837CE82C8B

 

[QuietM4]

Maybe this can actually get somewhere this session....arguably the best chance it's had in 4 years. It might get out of committee, at least. Also, it's only a matter of time until some Federal Court hears a case about someone illegally owning a suppressor and they apply Bruen, similar to the two recent Federal Courts that have ruled machine guns are legal, in addition to the 'dangerous and unusual' metric, which suppressors are neither.

 

[kenpoprofessor]

Maybe this can actually get somewhere this session....arguably the best chance it's had in 4 years. It might get out of committee, at least. Also, it's only a matter of time until some Federal Court hears a case about someone illegally owning a suppressor and they apply Bruen, similar to the two recent Federal Courts that have ruled machine guns are legal, in addition to the 'dangerous and unusual' metric, which suppressors are neither.

The biggest problem with the courts are, they don't separate the "and" from the "or". They interpret "or" when "and" is the desired language to be used.

Much like using the phrase: You're considered innocent "until" proven guilty, which can clearly be interpreted to read: You are guilty, we just have to prove it. The proper language should read "unless", because the phrase should be open ended on the proven part. By using "until", you're already guilty, and close ended.

Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day

Clyde

 

[geezer]

Finally I may get one.
The cost was never an obstacle for me, the BS was...

 

[QuietM4]

Finally I may get one.
The cost was never an obstacle for me, the BS was...

The months long wait has been a thing of the past for nearly a year...last suppressor I bought took 28 hours to be approved. Buying a suppressor has never been easier.

 

[kenpoprofessor]

The months long wait has been a thing of the past for nearly a year...last suppressor I bought took 28 hours to be approved. Buying a suppressor has never been easier.

So that makes it OK to classify them as firearms and charge $$??? Seriously??

Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day

Clyde

 

[QuietM4]

The months long wait has been a thing of the past for nearly a year...last suppressor I bought took 28 hours to be approved. Buying a suppressor has never been easier.

So that makes it OK to classify them as firearms and charge $$??? Seriously??

Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day

Clyde

Relax, Francis.

 

[kenpoprofessor]

The months long wait has been a thing of the past for nearly a year...last suppressor I bought took 28 hours to be approved. Buying a suppressor has never been easier.

So that makes it OK to classify them as firearms and charge $$??? Seriously??

Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day

Clyde

Relax, Francis.

Your reply would imply that yes, you're good with that.

Clyde

 

[QuietM4]

Have you ever bought a gun from an FFL? I'm sure you refused to complete a 4473, right?
Ever pay taxes? I'm sure you refuse because I'd bet you believe taxes are illegal. I'm sure drive on the left side of the road, just to stick it to the man!

 

[kenpoprofessor]

Have you ever bought a gun from an FFL? I'm sure you refused to complete a 4473, right?
Ever pay taxes? I'm sure you refuse because I'd bet you believe taxes are illegal. I'm sure drive on the left side of the road, just to stick it to the man!

Yes, I've purchased from an FFL. And again yes, I've driven on the left side of the road, for 3 years more to the point. And yet you still haven't answered my question, which would still imply you're good with the tax and AFT requirement.

Clyde

 

[geezer]

Maybe it's easier than ever to get a suppressor than ever timewise, but the online ATF site still says age, citizenship, eligibility, background check, eligible state, fingerprints, photos, $200 stamp, local police ok, then registration.
Hardly the equivalent of taxes or what side of the road to drive on, it's still annoying, unnecessary, and worse punitive BS

 

[omegaman]

Maybe it's easier than ever to get a suppressor than ever timewise, but the online ATF site still says age, citizenship, eligibility, background check, eligible state, fingerprints, photos, $200 stamp, [highlight=yellow]local police ok,[/highlight] then registration.
Hardly the equivalent of taxes or what side of the road to drive on, it's still annoying, unnecessary, and worse punitive BS

No longer needed.

 

[geezer]

I just heard from a friend who a little over a week ago who used Tombstone Tactical for a suppressor.
He did some online paperwork, they walked him through some more and the form, fingerprinted him, he paid the 200, and had the suppressor in a day and a half, in contrast to the 9 months he waited for the last one he bought.

So much for the accuracy of the ATF's site...