I have heard from a Nurse at Banner UMC tucson that they are at near critical state of emergency with lack of beds,Ventilators,Nurses ,having to get Management nurses and Pediatric nurses to tend to COVID cases.Does anyone know if in fact this is happening or are some of these workers in panic mode.
Shortage Of ventilators & Nurses
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There may be hot spots, but the last stat that I've seen was on Monday where the average hospital reporting for beds in use was @ 4%.
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I don’t think we are short of ventilators yet. We are very short of hospital beds and staff. The DHS dashboard has clearly shown a huge upswing in in-patient and ICU usage for covid.
My sister is an RN and posted this on Facebook last week. She says it’s gotten worse since then.
My sister is an RN and posted this on Facebook last week. She says it’s gotten worse since then.
I guess my problem is, with such varying information from so many sources, I just don’t believe any of it.
The news reports Texas is critical, congressman from Texas goes on an interview says they have ample resources, beds and respirators.
Scarf lady Birx says up to 50% of the Covid tests are false positives and hospitals are quarantining anyone who test positive.
Antidotal but my aunt is 95, not in great health, she is in assisted living, her and 8 other residents tested positive for Covid-19 at the end of May, they’re all doing well, nobody hospitalized, nobody died, but they all were segregated making their lives very miserable until just this week.
I no longer believe anything about Covid unless I see it or it comes from a source that I trust implicitly .
The news reports Texas is critical, congressman from Texas goes on an interview says they have ample resources, beds and respirators.
Scarf lady Birx says up to 50% of the Covid tests are false positives and hospitals are quarantining anyone who test positive.
Antidotal but my aunt is 95, not in great health, she is in assisted living, her and 8 other residents tested positive for Covid-19 at the end of May, they’re all doing well, nobody hospitalized, nobody died, but they all were segregated making their lives very miserable until just this week.
I no longer believe anything about Covid unless I see it or it comes from a source that I trust implicitly .
Ditto, we do some work in misc, med centers, and well, story on news isn't same as you get over the news stuff, so, as it appears, a lot is hear say i'm speculating, but hey i'm just an old const. guy,
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YNOTAZ said:
Not sure what you mean about conflicting info. Other than people spouting opinions that aren’t referenced, I’ve not seen any factual evidence that conflicts with each other.
Btw, here is the ICU usage chart straight from the DHS website. It clearly shows we are at 90% icu bed utilization. We were at 60% just a couple weeks ago.
This is how many of those icu beds are for Covid.
That Last chart says positive or suspected covid cases so how is that an effective chart. My sister who lives in Tenn went to ER this past Friday night with respiratory symptoms and a low grade fever. At ER she was determined to have symptoms of pneumonia. They immediately put her in ICU and isolation Friday night telling us that it was likely Covid. A Covid test was done Saturday AM. By Sunday she was feeling much better by yesterday morning she told me she was feeling fine but had to stay in ICU till the test came back. Yesterday afternoon her Covid test came back negative, it was likely a bacterial respiratory infection that responded well to the antibiotics and steroids said the doctor. At least they did not put her on a ventilator, however she is still in ICU this AM. Presumably to be released today directly from ICU to home. None of us understand why she was kept there another night. My point is i guess that everyone in ICU does not have Covid, and at least in this case we are not sure she should have even been in ICU at all and definitely not still in ICU. I am not a medical professional. Just relating one experience. I wonder how many of the ICU beds are actually being utilized when not needed as a precaution or when not needed anymore. It is probably easier to isolate someone in ICU so there is that. I assume there is a financial difference between a regular hospital room and ICU but surely that would never be a consideration. I also think in the past there is a good chance my sister would have been given antibiotics, steroids and sent home from ER to recover. But what do i know i have not even stayed at a holiday inn express lately.
I work at a hospital, we have 6 in the valley. We are at 79-81% capacity for ICU beds. We are also setting up our "surge" contingency plans just in case we need them.
We were at around 100 patients with Covid in out hospitals three weeks ago, now we are over three hundred. For the most part however, it is business as usual. The media's reports that the hospitals are like free-for-alls and the healthcare system is crumbling into smoldering ashes is not happening.
There is purely too much hear-say and media over-reaction with this situation. That being said there has been a steady increase in the number of patients and transferred patients since the reopening (which makes sense, tbh.) How much the increase will grow to we don't know - hence why they are taking additional steps at my work.
We were at around 100 patients with Covid in out hospitals three weeks ago, now we are over three hundred. For the most part however, it is business as usual. The media's reports that the hospitals are like free-for-alls and the healthcare system is crumbling into smoldering ashes is not happening.
There is purely too much hear-say and media over-reaction with this situation. That being said there has been a steady increase in the number of patients and transferred patients since the reopening (which makes sense, tbh.) How much the increase will grow to we don't know - hence why they are taking additional steps at my work.
Friend wife is a nurse dept head in a jt in scottsdale area, and says 8 out their 10 covids are american indians, and just in the last 4-5 days, prior to that they were busy, but not slammed as its being noted, says the NA are not doing well with this, guess we will see how it goes for all of us, but its not": the sky is falling
Joe_Blacke said:
I'm not going to attempt to challenge DHS figures but I know people at the Banner group of hospitals, they are not full, I was at Abrazo and asked my surgeon, they are not full and this is from TMC, Texas Medical Center in Houston where a buddy of mine has a large business with a lot of employees so he tracks this stuff:
https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/overview-of-tmc-icu-bed-capacity-and-occupancy/
Brix, (the scarf lady) said 50% of positive Covid-19 test are inaccurate.
Nobody has enough resources or information sources to directly challenge DHS publications but based on what I know. I call bullshit on what they published.
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https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/arizona-covid-19-hospitalizations-plunge-12-ventilator-usage-drops-25
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Various friends in the medical profession who are in southern Arizona state that 90% of the Covid patients are of Hispanic origins, and most of those undocumented. Cochise county cases are almost exclusively undocumenteds.
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The CDC is finally trying to CYA.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/05/26/cdc-says-possibly-less-than-half-of-positive-antibody-tests-are-correct/?fbclid=IwAR2gyiG9BtAGypRz430VI1tvRR3IHrAYMRhl4s2JLU92ac2bReAM8q1dPbw#4da536452391
CDC Says Possibly 'Less Than Half' Of Positive Antibody Tests Are Correct
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/05/26/cdc-says-possibly-less-than-half-of-positive-antibody-tests-are-correct/?fbclid=IwAR2gyiG9BtAGypRz430VI1tvRR3IHrAYMRhl4s2JLU92ac2bReAM8q1dPbw#4da536452391
CDC Says Possibly 'Less Than Half' Of Positive Antibody Tests Are Correct
We are all good for our hospitals....
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AR-15Man said:
The hospital my wife works at you have to ask the charge nurse every time you need a new mask, I am assuming to keep theft down. The thing I don't understand is they no longer give them shoe booties to cover their feet. I guess you can't track the germs around out of the rooms on the soles of your feet?
Reading the article, my understanding is that they are talking about a different test. Apparently there are two types of tests: one which determines if you have the Wuhan Flu (PCR test), and another that tests whether you have had the Wuhan Flu in the past (serology test). The PCR test is reportedly pretty accurate. The serology test is the one that has accuracy issues, according to this article.Suck My Glock said:
So, when the Arizona Government reports "3000 new cases yesterday," that number is actually pretty solid. Brix was referring to the second test.
So far, the best place for getting stats that I have found is https://azdhs.gov/preparedness/epidemiology-disease-control/infectious-disease-epidemiology/covid-19/dashboards/index.php
Lots of different stats. Click on one, scroll down, then click on some of the variations. Interesting stuff.