S&W M&P's.... My Choice.
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Hansen
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Yes, the 2.0 no longer has the safety on it, I removed it!
I tried to like the M&P; I really tried - but I could not get past the trigger on it. Yeah, I know you can get the aftermarket ones like the aforementioned APEX, but those are not cheap and it defeats one of the main draws to the M&P: the cost.
shooter444
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Bought a MP45 full size,no thumb safety, over a decade ago. I have liked it enough to sell all my old 45's., and pick up a Shield45 2.0, no thumb safety, a couple years ago.
Other than a red dot on the full size, both are stock, no mods, and have been 100% reliable and accurate!
Which is more than I can say for a few other 45's I have bought in the past.
Other than a red dot on the full size, both are stock, no mods, and have been 100% reliable and accurate!
Which is more than I can say for a few other 45's I have bought in the past.
Martimus
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I own several M&P 1.0 pistols. All have Apex kits and triggers installed. Personally, other than the new M&P 9 Compact, I see no reason to replace any of them to the 2.0 variant.
Hansen
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Razai said:
The 2.0 is nice.
Hansen
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admin said:
The 1.0 are 39.99 and the 2.0 are expensive at 120.00 plus. But I bought the gun because it was better for me than the Glocks. Not due to price.
Hansen
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shooter444 said:
I used an M&P45 a few months ago and loved it better than the 1911's I had.
Hansen
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Martimus said:
The only difference I feel between the two are in the trigger and how it is a bit smoother. With the Apex addition it went from 5.5 to about a 4.5 trigger pull. I wouldn't sell what I have for a 2.0, all my 1.0's will do exactly what the 2.0's all can do.
John Kuhns
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Unlike Hansen I opted to keep the safety on mine. Sure, I can remove it but am choosing not to.
As far as accuracy goes, it is a tack driver right out of the box. You all may remember a similar post on the old site where I mentioned it reminded me a lot of my old beloved 39-2 but with double the ammo capacity. It is my carry gun on a regular basis.
As far as accuracy goes, it is a tack driver right out of the box. You all may remember a similar post on the old site where I mentioned it reminded me a lot of my old beloved 39-2 but with double the ammo capacity. It is my carry gun on a regular basis.
If S&W would have just put a better trigger in to begin with there wouldn’t be much discussion. Much more comfortable than Glock but the trigger “grit” and no reset wasn’t good. APEX fixed that then S&W did with the 2.0. What took so long?
Still holding to one Glock but waiting for a good trade.
Still holding to one Glock but waiting for a good trade.
Hansen
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I didn't start using M&P till 2014, I liked it, but I also have used M&P's that are older than that and the triggers are junk. Form what I see from 2014 on they are much better. I added the Apex to enhance the gun.
Hansen
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John Kuhns said:
Two reasons I removed the safety! #1 was during a force on force drill I actually engaged the safety on two separate occasions on the same day. While conducting live fire drills a week later, I did the same thing again.... I removed the safety that night! All my M&P's have NO safety, so I made this one emulate them too.
I have trained myself to treat my guns as they have no safety engagement on them. Since 1988 I have had no issue at all with this method and it continues on. No reason to change it up... I know of people that do leave the safeties on them and that is all well and good too.
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I feel there is a difference in the grip as well beyond the 1 and 2 models. I hate my 1.0 model as it doesn’t feel like I naturally get a high grip. Don’t have that problem with the 2.0. I think with the removal of the beaver tail they redesigned the tang geometry also.
Hansen
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Noshoot said:
I hear ya, same for me as in no safety to deal with. I couldn't get into 1911's, I tried....
The only M&P's i have are 9mm Shields. They have become the favorite in a carry gun around here. My wife owns a G-19 and a KAHR PM-9. She shoots the shield far better she has small hands and the glock is too big. The KAHR has far too much recoil and a terrible trigger. The ones we have are all 1.0 and have stock triggers. While i know the apex is an improvement, the triggers on the shields after shooting a bit are perfectly serviceable to us. It's not intended to be a match gun. I also prefer guns with no safety, but for my wife in her purse she prefers the safety model. Just this week i purchased a new .380 EZ shield for her to try. Didn't even get to range before found there was a consumer advisory on the new gun requiring a return to S&W, Broke rule number one never buy a new designed gun in first year or two... So we will have to wait a few weeks to try it out.
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