Rio Salado open but......

[Joelafives]

Rio was fine yesterday.

 

[Flash]

Daily range fee has gone from $10 to $15. That is insane.

Went from $4 in 1991 to $10 up until April 2020. $6 increase over about 30 years.

$5 increase in the midst of this coronavirus garbage in a single year. Opportunistic?

The new Range Master is looking for ways to make more money throughout the range. Look for prices for things that were free before and increases on all that wasn't free.

 

[superdrag67]

Damn, that's quite the increase.

I remember looking at their membership rates and there was a $75 initiation fee on top of the membership cost that made me decide against it. Now it looks like there is only a $25 admin fee. Maybe they are trying to push people to membership? Maybe it changed a long time ago and I just never looked. If you go once a month the membership would pay for itself at this point.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Daily range fee has gone from $10 to $15. That is insane.

Went from $4 in 1991 to $10 up until April 2020. $6 increase over about 30 years.

$5 increase in the midst of this coronavirus garbage in a single year. Opportunistic?

$15 per person to shoot? That's ridiculous.

 

[ooda]

Yes it's a bit ridiculous, but then there is no time limit at the range if I remember. Its been at least 3yrs. since I last visited there. Some indoor ranges are $15 and higher depending where you go and that's for an hour. Are their targets still 25 cents or possible that has gone up in price also.

 

[Papago]

What does Ben Avery or Phx Rod and Gun cost per day?

 

[Papago]

$15 does seem a little out of line then. I am a member but did notice the price increase. I am out at least twice a month sometimes more so membership is worth it to me.

 

[baja]

Ben Avery- $7
Rio -$15

Greedy Bastards are apparently in charge at Rio.

 

[QuietM4]

Ben Avery- $7
Rio -$15

Greedy Bastards are apparently in charge at Rio.

Rio Salado Sportsmans Club is a nonprofit corporation, using land leased from AZGFD. Ben Avery is owned and operated by AZGFD. That is why Rio charges $15, and Ben Avery charges $7. But, feel free to purchase your own large plot of land, develop it into a shooting range, pay the insurance premiums and taxes, and charge the public whatever you want for range time.

 

[Basher]

Wow, I don't really see a reason why a $5 jump during hard times like this is necessary. Their range, their rules I guess, but I'll have to take another serious look at joining PRGC, which is much closer anyhow...

 

[Solar_Empire]

Ben Avery- $7
Rio -$15

Greedy Bastards are apparently in charge at Rio.

Rio Salado Sportsmans Club is a nonprofit corporation, using land leased from AZGFD. Ben Avery is owned and operated by AZGFD. That is why Rio charges $15, and Ben Avery charges $7. But, feel free to purchase your own large plot of land, develop it into a shooting range, pay the insurance premiums and taxes, and charge the public whatever you want for range time.

They rent the land for $1 a year. I think what is making people ticked is that they jumped the price almost as much in one day as it has in 25 years...They seemed to be doing just fine until covid hit. At the very least, poor timing on their part. Unless every outdoor shooting spot and indoor range out east is closed I'm never going back.

 

[QuietM4]

Ben Avery- $7
Rio -$15

Greedy Bastards are apparently in charge at Rio.

Rio Salado Sportsmans Club is a nonprofit corporation, using land leased from AZGFD. Ben Avery is owned and operated by AZGFD. That is why Rio charges $15, and Ben Avery charges $7. But, feel free to purchase your own large plot of land, develop it into a shooting range, pay the insurance premiums and taxes, and charge the public whatever you want for range time.

Unless every outdoor shooting spot and indoor range out east is closed I'm never going back.

Great. I'm sure they will be heartbroken to lose your business.

I didn't join RSSC to use the main range...I did it because there are 6 other ranges you can access as a member. When I use the High Power range, a "busy" day is when you see 3 other shooters on the range at the same time. The membership has it's benefits.

 

[Solar_Empire]

Rio Salado Sportsmans Club is a nonprofit corporation, using land leased from AZGFD. Ben Avery is owned and operated by AZGFD. That is why Rio charges $15, and Ben Avery charges $7. But, feel free to purchase your own large plot of land, develop it into a shooting range, pay the insurance premiums and taxes, and charge the public whatever you want for range time.

Unless every outdoor shooting spot and indoor range out east is closed I'm never going back.

Great. I'm sure they will be heartbroken to lose your business.

I didn't join RSSC to use the main range...I did it because there are 6 other ranges you can access as a member. When I use the High Power range, a "busy" day is when you see 3 other shooters on the range at the same time. The membership has it's benefits.

And I'm sure they appreciate your money. It'll be interesting to see if shooter volume on those other ranges increases now that they are just increasing the price because they feel like it, but I guess that'll be your problem to worry about.

 

[QuietM4]

Unless every outdoor shooting spot and indoor range out east is closed I'm never going back.

Great. I'm sure they will be heartbroken to lose your business.

I didn't join RSSC to use the main range...I did it because there are 6 other ranges you can access as a member. When I use the High Power range, a "busy" day is when you see 3 other shooters on the range at the same time. The membership has it's benefits.

And I'm sure they appreciate your money. It'll be interesting to see if shooter volume on those other ranges increases now that they are just increasing the price because they feel like it, but I guess that'll be your problem to worry about.

The shooter volume won't increase...the hoops you have to jump through to get access stops the majority of members. I'd be surprised if 400 people have access to all the member ranges.

 

[baja]

Ben Avery- $7
Rio -$15

Greedy Bastards are apparently in charge at Rio.

Rio Salado Sportsmans Club is a nonprofit corporation, using land leased from AZGFD. Ben Avery is owned and operated by AZGFD. That is why Rio charges $15, and Ben Avery charges $7. But, feel free to purchase your own large plot of land, develop it into a shooting range, pay the insurance premiums and taxes, and charge the public whatever you want for range time.

Well, you're entitled to your opinion.
But remember that the land "leased from AZGFD" is taxpayer land. With all the new construction at Rio maybe they got in a little over their head? All I know is $15 is starting to sound like price gouging.
Oh, and if you know how I can get 160 acres for $1/yr I'll be happy to develop a range.

 

[Manitu]

Perhaps it will return to the lower price when they are able to fill all slots. Might see this in eateries only filling 25% price increase should not surprise but to soon to call.

 

[Flash]

They've got a new manager and he's empire building. Any member that opposes him gets tossed out either temporarily or permanently.

Something to think about for those of you who shoot there.

 

[Elk34]

They like for their minions not to talk back to them even if they are in the wrong. That's why, I believe it rule 14, is there. I believe it states what ever they say ,goes.

 

[shooter444]

When I think about it,... really think about it,... with the horror stories I have heard, about the safety violations by (a minority) of some shooters,... Range Officer isn't a job I would put at the top of my list!


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[Flash]

When I think about it,... really think about it,... with the horror stories I have heard, about the safety violations by (a minority) of some shooters,... Range Officer isn't a job I would put at the top of my list!

There are good safety officers and there are bad ones. The ones at C2 Tactial are great. The ones at Rio, not so great.

They've obviously been taught to escalate situations so they can take disciplinary action rather than deescalate them which is how they should be taught.

And no, I've never had a run in with an RO in any range I've ever shot at. I just pay attention to what's going on around me.

Interestingly enough, 8 of the 17 members of my weekly shooting group refuse to ever go to Rio Salado again and one of them is a past Treasurer of the club there. He resigned in disgust over the way they treat people.