Rats tq

[G34]

Switching from the CAT to the RATS. I’ve run a cat with a wilder tactical carrier for a long time. While it’s easy it’s so damn bulky. Especially to conceal.

The rats can be sling cross body or attached to belt loops. I love this damn thing. It’s easy to use and I can get it tighter then my cat.

Highly recommend ppl check em out

 

[Tim McBride]

I highly recommend that people who want to actually stop bleeding not carry a RATS TQ.
There are only three certified . The North American Rescue CAT, the SOF-T Wide, and the RMT. Of those only the CAT and SOFT-W are windlass style tourniquets. These two tourniquets also have a massive amount of real world usage data to back up their effectiveness.
The RATS TQ is not effective, certified by any public body, or have the clinical and real world usage to support it's usage

 

[G34]

Have you used a RATs?

TCCC is not the end all be all. Isn’t it just another government program.

Have you seen the videos of the CaT failing on kids?

 

[Tim McBride]

Have you used a RATs?

TCCC is not the end all be all. Isn’t it just another government program.

Have you seen the videos of the CaT failing on kids?

I have purchased a RATS in the past; based on my experiences and research, I rejected it as a viable TQ for lifesaving.

The Committee for TCCC is not just another government body; whenever I hear that as a reason to pick a non certified TQ, I have serious doubts as to the level of training or experience the person has. It is made up of some no bullshit subject matter experts when it comes to emergency trauma medicine. There is a reason the CAT tourniquet is that gold standard for TQs. It has both the clinical research, and an unprecedented level of real world applications backing it up. The RATs has none of this.

I have extensive experience with the CAT tourniquet, real world applications in both war zones and as a police officer. I've also spent considerable time in training on this subject. That includes both military and civilian trainers and organizations.
As to pediatric cases, any limb too small for a CAT TQ can be secured with direct pressure from an adult and/or proper use of a pressure bandage(creating, for lack of a proper term, an improvised TQ on that small of a limb).

I would highly suggest getting some training in emergency trauma medicine. A local AZ company I highly recommend is Independence Training. https://www.independencetraining.com/
If money is tight The Tactical Medic puts on a free Stop the Bleed course every month with Independence Training teaching at their shop in Mesa. http://www.thetacticalmedic.com/
I believe they post the dates for the free monthly classes on both Facebook pages.

 

[G34]

I disagree, and that’s ok. Since I have personal experience and tested it.

I’ve got military, contractor, private protection under my belt. A bunch of medical training.

I just agree to disagree

 

[guardyan_angyl]

Not to mention the shady a** business practices of the company creating their own “TCCC” company so they can print on their devices they are TCCC certified.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.itstactical.com/medcom/medical/is-the-r-a-t-s-tourniquet-misleading-consumers-with-tccc-approval/amp/

 

[Flash]

Not to mention the shady a** business practices of the company creating their own “TCCC” company so they can print on their devices they are TCCC certified.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.itstactical.com/medcom/medical/is-the-r-a-t-s-tourniquet-misleading-consumers-with-tccc-approval/amp/

That's sort of like what some shooting Instructors do. They create a "society" or a special curriculum and proclaim them selves certified in that and they can then certify other Instructors or strudents in such as IDS or Combat Focus or something else or Valhalla or something else like that.

 

[G34]

I’m glad I’m not the only one that sees that.

 

[Tim McBride]

I’m glad I’m not the only one that sees that.

You do realize that it's the company that makes the RATS TQ that created a fake "TCCC" company to brand their own product as "TCCC Approved" right? Right? That is the integrity of the company you are trusting to make a life saving device.

 

[Viper 1-26 INF]

I prefer the CAT and SOFT-T Wide TQs. Used the CAT in combat on quite a few occasions and know quite a few guys whose lives they helped save. Not really a fan of the RATS TQ, there is a chance you can cause more unneeded damage to the individual than what has already been done. Pressure applied around a limb with the CAT and SOFT-T Wide is much more uniform and better distributed than with the RATS TQ.

 

[G34]

Do you carry the CAT everyday with you?

If not then there’s not much to say

 

[Viper 1-26 INF]

Yes, I do carry them daily.

 

[Tim McBride]

Do you carry the CAT everyday with you?

If not then there’s not much to say

Yes, all day, everyday.

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[G34]

You wear jeans all through the summer? All day ? Never wear shorts?

 

[Tim McBride]

I do. Because all I do is burn instead of tan.

 

[Flash]

I'm like Tim. I only wear shorts when in the swimming pool.

 

[Viper 1-26 INF]

Same here, and when working out.

 

[Ballistic Therapy]

I can not remember wearing shorts at anytime in my life , unless you call underwear shorts.

 

[Tim McBride]

UPDATED list of CoTCCC-Recommended Limb Tourniquets as of 06 MAY 2019.

Over the past year, the Committee on TCCC has conducted a comprehensive review of commercial limb tourniquets. After careful review using specific criteria, the recommended list of tourniquets is now available. The review criteria and specifics on each tourniquet will be published soon in medical literature.

Access or Download the list at https://deployedmedicine.com/market/31/content/100 or the mobile app “Deployed Medicine”.

Combat Application Tourniquet (CAT) Gen 7
NSN: 6515-01-521-7976
DLA Nomenclature: Tourniquet Nonpneumatic Combat Application One-Handed 37.5" LG 1

Combat Application Tourniquet (CAT) Gen 6
NSN: Use of CAT Generation 6 is acceptable until life-cycle replacements to gen 7.
DLA Nomenclature: Tourniquet Nonpneumatic Combat Application One-Handed 37.5" LG 1

Ratcheting Medical Tourniquet -Tactical (RMT-T)
NSN: 6515-01-527-3841
DLA Nomenclature: Tourniquet, One Handed Burke Device Tactical

NOTE: The RMT Civilian models are not CoTCCC-recommended for military use.

SAM Extremity Tourniquet (SAM-XT)
NSN: 6515-01-670-2240
DLA Nomenclature: Tourniquet Nonpneumatic 25S

SOF Tactical Tourniquet – Wide (SOFTT-W)
NSN: 6515-01-587-9943
DLA Nomenclature: Tourniquet Nonpneumatic Nylon Strap 1.5” Wide Nylon Strap for BR
NOTE: The original 1” SOFTT is removed from the CoTCCC Recommendations.

Tactical Mechanical Tourniquet (TMT)
NSN: 6515-01-656-6191
DLA Nomenclature: Tourniquet Nonpneumatic Tactical Mechanical Tourniquet

TX2” Tourniquet (TX2)
NSN: 6515-01-667-6027
DLA Nomenclature: Tourniquet Nonpneumatic TX2 Ratcheting One-Hand Coyote

TX3” Tourniquet (TX3)
NSN: 6515-01-667-6208
DLA Nomenclature: Tourniquet Nonpneumatic TX2 Ratcheting OD Green

PNEUMATIC LIMB TOURNIQUETS

Emergency Medical Tourniquet (EMT)
NSN: 6515-01-580-1645
DLA Nomenclature: Tourniquet Pneumatic Single-hand application fits upper and lower
NOTE: not recommended for JFAK, but considered for medics, evacuation platforms and Role I/II/III teams primarily for TQ-replacement, conversion, or prolonged application.

Tactical Pneumatic Tourniquet 2” (TPT2)
NSN: 6515-01-656-4831
DLA Nomenclature: Tourniquet Pneumatic Slide Fastener
NOTE: not recommended for JFAK, but considered for medics, evacuation platforms and Role I/II/III teams primarily for TQ-replacement, conversion, or prolonged application.

Joint Trauma System (JTS) / Committee on Tactical Combat Casualty Care (CoTCCC). The CoTCCC is the branch of the JTS focused on the standard of care for prehospital battlefield medicine. The JTS is the Department of Defense Center of Excellence for Trauma providing clinical practice guidelines and performance improvement for all levels of military trauma care.

 

[Tim McBride]

RATS TQ was evaluated and rejected.