Price gouging in the classifieds - holy $hit
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rockbronco
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Basher said:
I agree, yes it’s inflated but it is what it is at this time. We all know this situation is hell on ammo prices. The only reason I got some 9mm recently is in been running a little low. Every other caliber I’m well stocked on but I do go through 9 pretty quick.
I guess I’m used to .45 and .762x51 prices so 9 always seems cheap!
Elk34 said:
I'm not in need of 9mm but I'm still annoyed with asking for a $1/round of 9mm. I reload and always try to keep a decent stock of supplies on hand. I thought this forum is supposed to be a community of like minded people helping each other. I guess I was wrong.
Az desert rat 1
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Got a good laugh out of some of the asking prices on ammo. I've been reloading for over 15 years now and have a nice stock pile of ammo. Don't need any and wouldn't pay those prices if I did.
rockbronco
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Elk34 said:
And I have spent considerable time working at an actual dealership and know first hand how the pricing structure works. One thing is their price doesn't does not go up over night trying to take advantage of a situation unless of course you have one dishonest advisor trying to pull the wool over some unsuspecting customer.
but hey to each their own. As always do your homework before making a purchase both with ammo or getting your truck fixed.
Ballistic Therapy
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Elk34 said:
Then sometimes they are cheaper.
I just purchased a set of tires for my truck at Holmes Tuttle Ford.
With an oil change they were still $400 less than Discount Tire for the exact same tire.
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Winmagbill said:
This pretty much sums it up.
Buyers should know what they expect to pay, and if the price isn't in line, move on.
I am cheap usually, but I know what I am willing to spend. If I can't find what I want at that price, I can wait. Unfortunately, not all are in the same position and have to pay a higher price due to not having a surplus.
Also, I agree, just like at election time, prices will most likely go down a little after all this blows over, atleast I hope so.
Happy Monday!
glock holiday
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Guys if some of you are newbs here and really don’t have any 9mm just buy from here .20 a round not $1...don’t let idiots and leeches that need attention try and rip you off from the forum..usually everyone here is like a friend but some are here to be dumb...we had a few on the other forum and it seems that a few crawled into this one also..Elk34 said:
even if you have to pay tax and shipping..https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/remington-range-9mm-fmj-115-grain-50-rounds?a=2222394&CJ=1&cjaffilid=8292840&cjaffsite=WikiArms%2c+Inc&cjadv=CJTSGUSA&cjadvid=1522857&utm_source=WikiArms%2c+Inc&utm_medium=CJ&utm_campaign=Redirect-Enabled+Deep+Link&cjevent=2571c90e8e3e11ea823100190a1c0e0e
It was $179/1000 at BassPro (online) the other day. Was a thread here somewhere...
glock holiday said:Guys if some of you are newbs here and really don’t have any 9mm just buy from here .20 a round not $1...don’t let idiots and leeches that need attention try and rip you off from the forum..usually everyone here is like a friend but some are here to be dumb...we had a few on the other forum and it seems that a few crawled into this one also..Elk34 said:
https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/remington-range-9mm-fmj-115-grain-50-rounds?a=2222394&CJ=1&cjaffilid=8292840&cjaffsite=WikiArms%2c+Inc&cjadv=CJTSGUSA&cjadvid=1522857&utm_source=WikiArms%2c+Inc&utm_medium=CJ&utm_campaign=Redirect-Enabled+Deep+Link&cjevent=2571c90e8e3e11ea823100190a1c0e0e
Yes, by all means do what he says. But I'm going to tell all you newbies, you screw around and not buy it when it's cheap and plentiful, well your in for a bad day
Man, some of you guys with the "price gouging" stuff. I can understand complaints if they are for items necessary for survival (ie, water, food, etc) - but for things that are not immediately necessary to survive - and despite what some would like to believe, 'ammo' is not necessary for survival - people can ask whatever they want for it. Don't like the price? Don't buy it! Almost everything has a price someone is willing to take to sell something, and if someone posts a prohibitively high price for something, that's the line that they are willing to draw for parting with that item and it's deliberately high.
Say you had a FN2000 rifle that you like and have zero intention of selling. Its market value based on gunbroker ads and other is probably somewhere around $2000. If you want to keep it, you probably wouldn't part with it for $2000. Maybe not even for $3000. However, what if someone offered you $5000 to buy it? Would you take it? If so, is that price gouging? Most would sell it for that amount outside of some sentimental value associated with it.
Someone proactively putting up an ad with an item "for sale at X price" post isn't price gouging. It's not taking advantage of the situation. It's simply someone saying that I have something that I'd prefer to keep and don't really want to sell, but if someone offers me X price for it, I am willing to part with it.
Same could apply to your vehicle. I'm sure you aren't wanting to sell your car, but if someone offered you a certain amount for it, there is a line where you'd say that for X amount, I won't sell it, but for Y amount, you can have my vehicle.
Am I missing something?
Say you had a FN2000 rifle that you like and have zero intention of selling. Its market value based on gunbroker ads and other is probably somewhere around $2000. If you want to keep it, you probably wouldn't part with it for $2000. Maybe not even for $3000. However, what if someone offered you $5000 to buy it? Would you take it? If so, is that price gouging? Most would sell it for that amount outside of some sentimental value associated with it.
Someone proactively putting up an ad with an item "for sale at X price" post isn't price gouging. It's not taking advantage of the situation. It's simply someone saying that I have something that I'd prefer to keep and don't really want to sell, but if someone offers me X price for it, I am willing to part with it.
Same could apply to your vehicle. I'm sure you aren't wanting to sell your car, but if someone offered you a certain amount for it, there is a line where you'd say that for X amount, I won't sell it, but for Y amount, you can have my vehicle.
Am I missing something?
glock holiday
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It’s called keep it to yourself...people don’t need to know I have a bunch of guns that I don’t want to sell but if you your interested in them I’ll sell it for 5 times the amount..if I’m gunna sell something I’ll post an ad...you waste so much time if people make a post about what they have but are willing to sell it and then want 5-10x the amount during a pandemic...I don’t care that ammo is non essential right now and is not the same as bleach or TP...when you promote yourself at that time it just makes you look dumb..if you notice the ads of this so called price gouging, there isn’t anyone interested cause it’s stupid...it’s just there for comedy and confusion but just to make you look like an idiot.Admin don’t think I’m trying to get smart with you because your not the cause, there’s just things that get weeded out in life...there’s always that troublemaker that gets put in the corner of the class and that’s what this is about...you can’t do anything about it but I will say that people never forget...you don’t see me replying to any of these ads starting trouble, it’s not what I do..I come on here for good deals like anyone else and to get good information...no one sits on a toilet that’s covered in crap, you go to the next...but you do let someone know about it and steer them clear of it...and of course this is just my opinion and like Dalton once said “Opinions Vary”admin said:
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My post was not directed towards any specific post here or anywhere else, but in general regarding complaints about "price gouging" in forums. I am certainly not defending Elk34's actions - he's caused me more effort moderating that I generally want to exert, but that said, I do always find these "price gouging versus free market" threads that pop up at times interesting thought experiments and discussions.
During post-Sandy Hook, I decided to post a Colt AR-15 for sale on backpage for about 3 times what I paid for it. I didn't really want to sell it (was my only "Colt" branded AR), but if someone wanted it that badly and I didn't get an icky vibe from the person wanting it, then I'd be wiling to part with it for that price. It sold within 15 minutes of me posting it. I guess you could say I was price gouging. If I were to have sold it for what I paid for it, I guarantee you that 80% of those who would have been interested in it would have flipped it for considerably more money within days. Heck, the whole premise of the stock market is essentially 'price gouging' by most forum-poster definitions, no? In this thread here, unless the OP tried to corner the market on 9mm, then you can laugh at his for sale ad all you want, but he has a right to post it - and you have the right to think he's insane/dumb/smart/crazy/whatever. If it's not a viable price, it won't sell; period - and as long as people can find 9mm ammo reasonably easy for less money; which isn't hard to do even now - then his ad will gather dust and look silly.
I'm not sure I could completely comprehend what glock holiday posted, but trying my best to decipher it...
So where's the line between what's 'stupid' and what's 'fine' when selling something? If someone posted 1K rounds of 9mm for $200 that's a deal that someone would jump on quickly (and frankly, there's probably a 50% chance the buyer would flip it for more money). What about selling 1K rounds of 9mm for $500? Is that a for sale ad that would be worthy of ridicule? What about 1K for $600? $650? $675? Where's the $1 line between what's an OK price to post it and what's a stupid price to post it at?
During post-Sandy Hook, I decided to post a Colt AR-15 for sale on backpage for about 3 times what I paid for it. I didn't really want to sell it (was my only "Colt" branded AR), but if someone wanted it that badly and I didn't get an icky vibe from the person wanting it, then I'd be wiling to part with it for that price. It sold within 15 minutes of me posting it. I guess you could say I was price gouging. If I were to have sold it for what I paid for it, I guarantee you that 80% of those who would have been interested in it would have flipped it for considerably more money within days. Heck, the whole premise of the stock market is essentially 'price gouging' by most forum-poster definitions, no? In this thread here, unless the OP tried to corner the market on 9mm, then you can laugh at his for sale ad all you want, but he has a right to post it - and you have the right to think he's insane/dumb/smart/crazy/whatever. If it's not a viable price, it won't sell; period - and as long as people can find 9mm ammo reasonably easy for less money; which isn't hard to do even now - then his ad will gather dust and look silly.
I'm not sure I could completely comprehend what glock holiday posted, but trying my best to decipher it...
So where's the line between what's 'stupid' and what's 'fine' when selling something? If someone posted 1K rounds of 9mm for $200 that's a deal that someone would jump on quickly (and frankly, there's probably a 50% chance the buyer would flip it for more money). What about selling 1K rounds of 9mm for $500? Is that a for sale ad that would be worthy of ridicule? What about 1K for $600? $650? $675? Where's the $1 line between what's an OK price to post it and what's a stupid price to post it at?
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