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Winmagbill said:I’d never judge, well not too much, a gun just based on looks, but if I’m buy a Glock-based gun with a proprietary frame online Price is going to be a big factor. PSA has the compact Dagger at $349 with a bag and 15 GL9 mags. Beats $429 and 1 mag unless Dealers will really discount them. A little vent: Who sells a gun with just 1 mag anymore??
Winmagbill said:I’d never judge, well not too much, a gun just based on looks, but if I’m buy a Glock-based gun with a proprietary frame online Price is going to be a big factor. PSA has the compact Dagger at $349 with a bag and 15 GL9 mags. Beats $429 and 1 mag unless Dealers will really discount them. A little vent: Who sells a gun with just 1 mag anymore??
BigNate said:The idea of a Glock clone as a bargain gun confuses me. I could see a "clone" that shares some common parts (mags etc.) but has a bunch of slick go-fast upgrades at a higher price... The idea that someone is going to save $100 by buying the off-brand gun seems just stupid to me. Just go buy a used glock...
superdrag67 said:Winmagbill said:I’d never judge, well not too much, a gun just based on looks, but if I’m buy a Glock-based gun with a proprietary frame online Price is going to be a big factor. PSA has the compact Dagger at $349 with a bag and 15 GL9 mags. Beats $429 and 1 mag unless Dealers will really discount them. A little vent: Who sells a gun with just 1 mag anymore??
Well for starters, the Dagger only comes with one mag when you don't buy it in one of those mag bundle packages. And really why include more than one mag and drive up the cost? Good chance anybody buying one already has a pile of glock mags. If not then they can drive to the nearest gun store and buy a couple more, as they will assuredly have them in stock.
Winmagbill said:What does the G-lone bring to the table for $429 + $175 to make it that much better?
QuietM4 said:Winmagbill said:What does the G-lone bring to the table for $429 + $175 to make it that much better?
What does a Snap-On screw driver bring to the table for $30 that makes it that much better than a $5 Kobalt? Both will be replaced if it breaks. Both turn the screw exactly the same way.
The Dagger clone allows new shooters (or shooters who don't have deep pockets, or those who appreciate value) a lower priced alternative to a more expensive competitor that accomplishes the exact same thing. A reliable proven platform that punches holes in paper exactly as the $550+ competition.
kenpoprofessor said:BigNate said:The idea of a Glock clone as a bargain gun confuses me. I could see a "clone" that shares some common parts (mags etc.) but has a bunch of slick go-fast upgrades at a higher price... The idea that someone is going to save $100 by buying the off-brand gun seems just stupid to me. Just go buy a used glock...
For the price, it's one of the best clones on the market, and is direct competition with the Taurus, Stoeger, and a few others. The fact that its a Glock clone makes it up gradable just like a normal Glock for less money. I have three of the Dagger slides on Polymer80 lowers, just cuz I like mine without numbers on them.
Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day
Clyde
BigNate said:kenpoprofessor said:BigNate said:The idea of a Glock clone as a bargain gun confuses me. I could see a "clone" that shares some common parts (mags etc.) but has a bunch of slick go-fast upgrades at a higher price... The idea that someone is going to save $100 by buying the off-brand gun seems just stupid to me. Just go buy a used glock...
For the price, it's one of the best clones on the market, and is direct competition with the Taurus, Stoeger, and a few others. The fact that its a Glock clone makes it up gradable just like a normal Glock for less money. I have three of the Dagger slides on Polymer80 lowers, just cuz I like mine without numbers on them.
Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day
Clyde
I guess what I'm saying is that if I were looking for a $400 defensive carry handgun - I'd buy a used Glock instead of a new Glock clone. I'm far from a Glock fan-boy - I always hated their triggers (I should say that I recently shot a friend's current generation G34 and the trigger on that gun was surprisingly good - but that was a first ) and I've always found them blocky and not terribly ergonomic. That said - there is no arguing that they are amongst, if not "the" most solid, reliable, safe, available guns in the world. Why would I want to buy a knockoff when I can buy the real thing slightly used for near the same price?
Again - just my 2 cents...
kenpoprofessor said:BigNate said:kenpoprofessor said:For the price, it's one of the best clones on the market, and is direct competition with the Taurus, Stoeger, and a few others. The fact that its a Glock clone makes it up gradable just like a normal Glock for less money. I have three of the Dagger slides on Polymer80 lowers, just cuz I like mine without numbers on them.
Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day
Clyde
I guess what I'm saying is that if I were looking for a $400 defensive carry handgun - I'd buy a used Glock instead of a new Glock clone. I'm far from a Glock fan-boy - I always hated their triggers (I should say that I recently shot a friend's current generation G34 and the trigger on that gun was surprisingly good - but that was a first ) and I've always found them blocky and not terribly ergonomic. That said - there is no arguing that they are amongst, if not "the" most solid, reliable, safe, available guns in the world. Why would I want to buy a knockoff when I can buy the real thing slightly used for near the same price?
Again - just my 2 cents...
If it's not for you, it's not for you, you do you. I told you why it's popular, did you just want to see your opinion in text again??
Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day
Clyde
pneuby said:Why buy a Glone? They simply fit the hand better, number one. Then, cost factor, sure. But, jump up to the Shadows, and you get a bit more features, also.
BigNate said:kenpoprofessor said:BigNate said:I guess what I'm saying is that if I were looking for a $400 defensive carry handgun - I'd buy a used Glock instead of a new Glock clone. I'm far from a Glock fan-boy - I always hated their triggers (I should say that I recently shot a friend's current generation G34 and the trigger on that gun was surprisingly good - but that was a first ) and I've always found them blocky and not terribly ergonomic. That said - there is no arguing that they are amongst, if not "the" most solid, reliable, safe, available guns in the world. Why would I want to buy a knockoff when I can buy the real thing slightly used for near the same price?
Again - just my 2 cents...
If it's not for you, it's not for you, you do you. I told you why it's popular, did you just want to see your opinion in text again??
Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day
Clyde
I responded because my read was that you answered a different question than the one I asked... I can see why builder guns based on an 80% lower are popular - but that's not the same thing as buying a new, serial numbered, clone (which is the topic of the post). I still don't see a good reason to buy a new "g-lone" as a new, registered firearm. It doesn't make sense to me. If a new Glock was $1200 and the comparable G-lone was $400 - it would make sense - but with a $100 difference in street price... the juice just ain't worth the squeeze ( IMHO <shrug> )
Anyway - I'm done. Have a great, gun carryin' day...
Boriqua said:[
Dont sweat it Nate. He hasn't seen a pu$$y since he was birthed and evidently it makes him grumpy.
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