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Crippledtrigger said:
Some narcissist with repetitive digital dysentery?
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I understand the "point" and application of this technique, however an instructor in a class I took years ago said, "if you have to fatally defend yourself one day, I'm not going to sit in court and say I instructed you on how to "point shoot," we'll both be torn to shreds on that one."
 
I beg to differ. You are convicted on the laws relevant to deadly force use. You are either convicted or exonerated based on the merits of your actions being lawful based on deadly force laws on the books. It doesn't matter on the technique
Or gun u used.
 
Also interested in credentials?

Different techniques are cool if there’s fact behind them and current with the times. Old things don’t relate to current fighting.
 
Ranger1 said:
I beg to differ. You are convicted on the laws relevant to deadly force use. You are either convicted or exonerated based on the merits of your actions being lawful based on deadly force laws on the books. It doesn't matter on the technique
Or gun u used.
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I see your point, but regardless of technique, doesn't the prosecution look to taint the mind with every dirty malicious falsity of a crazed killer mindset, regardless of the soot being clean or not?
 
G34 said:
Also interested in credentials?

Different techniques are cool if there’s fact behind them and current with the times. Old things don’t relate to current fighting.
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I offer the following opinions---
Credentials are mostly irrelevant to me, I point to the attitude that NRA Certification within the training/firearms community is largely outdated, and really only useful for insurance purposes.
On that note, the cert might be impressive to a newbie who doesn't know any better.
Techniques---
The more I train and discover new things, I find that shooting is mostly proven science, and some opinion. As for old techniques that don't relate, I wouldn't want to pit any of my current techniques in a life or death situation against Clint Smith, as he has been packing a non-current fullsize 1911 as his EDC for the better part of 50 years.
I fear the man who has only one gun, for he knows it intimately.
 
Credentials to me aren’t just certifications. Maybe a resume with someone that’s used these in actual real world, not a square range.

I’ve seen quite a few instructors fail in dynamic movements and have a feeling they stick to what’s easy cuz that’s been there own training.

Hopefully these guys aren’t just regular military. And that’s the extent of there craft
 
Pro2a said:
Ranger1 said:
I beg to differ. You are convicted on the laws relevant to deadly force use. You are either convicted or exonerated based on the merits of your actions being lawful based on deadly force laws on the books. It doesn't matter on the technique
Or gun u used.
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I see your point, but regardless of technique, doesn't the prosecution look to taint the mind with every dirty malicious falsity of a crazed killer mindset, regardless of the soot being clean or not?
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Absolutely. And if you win the criminal trial because the jury somehow overcame you snuffing out poor little Travon's promising life, the family will sue you in civil court. Their lawyer will take it on a contingency basis or be paid by a support group for the "victim", and you will lose a judgment or pay so much in legal fees to win that you will end up living in a cardboard box under the seventh street overpass.

It's nice to think that juries rule strictly on the facts as we know them but very often the facts can't be brought into court and the jury decides on a small subset of the facts and a lot of emotions that can be instilled in them by a good lawyer.
 
Then by your thinking we are all fu$#ed. Every gun touting American better be ready to lose in court. Because when it's time the deck is stacked against you. You will lose. So if you have to draw your weapon and shoot someone you just turn it around and kill yourself. That way 2 dead people can not be held responsible. Lets all give up and become tree hugging Demerats. That way when we are dead our families will win in court
 
Please open your eyes and read again.

It appears you have not spent much time in court or you only did it as a casual spectator. Facts make no difference. What is presented and not disproven, or exempted in court, makes all the difference. It doesn't make a damn bit of difference if it is presented for the plaintiff or the defendant. The merits of your actions are NOT the sole degerminators in a court of law and a shooter starts out in the negative because he/she can have their actions/motives questioned in court, the dead perp can't. Dead guys are always saints with promising lives who were pillars in the community.

You can be a realist, a nihilist, or just a dreamer with your thinking, choice is yours but don't mislead others.
 
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