On EV's

[blasternaz]

China now leads the world in…junked EV vehicles.

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2023-china-ev-graveyards/

The official story is that they’ve been junked due to being replaced by the “next generation” of EVs.

The real story is that they have a service life measured in months or even weeks before the batteries “brick”. And even after that, if any moisture enters the battery and contacts the lithium, it ignites.

But here in the U.S. the government has a solution to that. Sodium batteries.

I guess nobody told them that sodium and water ignite about as fast as lithium and water, and burn even hotter. (The driving reaction is the formation of sodium hydroxide.)

Speaking as a retired lab geek, IMPO at our present SOTA, it is pretty much impractical to build an EV that is even halfway “affordable” that will not end up as a rolling incendiary munition waiting to initiate.

clear ether

eon

 

[Dauph]

What do you think is going to happen with the electric fire trucks hitting the streets? Surely they thought about all that.

 

[blasternaz]

They "thought"?

 

[Dauph]

Of course they did

 

[Dauph]

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:z1jTGmyvfcsJ:https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/12/26/ev-demand-slows/&hl=en&gl=us

EV transition cools as demand slows and automakers trim production
Concerns about charging infrastructure are holding back some buyers as the market awaits the arrival of federally subsidized charging stations

https://1ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.breitbart.com%2Feconomy%2F2023%2F12%2F20%2Ffire-shuts-down-gms-electric-car-plant-executives-blame-battery-materials%2F

Fire Shuts Down GM’s Electric Car Plant, Executives Blame ‘Battery Materials’

 

[xerts1191]

https://www.westernjournal.com/watch-car-owner-shocked-learn-cost-new-hybrid-battery-paid-car/
How Much!

 

[xerts1191]

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2023/12/true_cost_of_charging_an_ev_is_equivalent_to_paying_1733_a_gallon_of_gas_per_new_report_.html
Fill er up

 

[Hooch33]

So ban gas, then pollute the air 20x worse when EVs light on fire lol liberal genius

 

[Dauph]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/11/business/hertz-tesla-selling/index.html

Hertz is selling 20,000 electric vehicles to buy gasoline cars instead

 

[pneuby]

It's become clear that there is a unique fire-hazard at risk with these L/I batteries.
Since that's the case, what about getting back to the idea of hydrogen power? Is the
fire-risk any worse? Is the resultant fire any worse, if/when one decides to ignite?
Any easier to extinguish for the fire-crews when such a thing happens?

 

[paulgt2164]

The issue with hydrogen (among a great many) is it has to be pressurized. Toyota for example, had to develop it's own tanks for the cars that store it at 5k-10k psi. Yes, 5 - 10 *thousand * psi. Imagine what could go wrong there.

 

[XJThrottle]

China now leads the world in…junked EV vehicles.

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2023-china-ev-graveyards/

The official story is that they’ve been junked due to being replaced by the “next generation” of EVs.

The real story is that they have a service life measured in months or even weeks before the batteries “brick”. And even after that, if any moisture enters the battery and contacts the lithium, it ignites.

But here in the U.S. the government has a solution to that. Sodium batteries.

I guess nobody told them that sodium and water ignite about as fast as lithium and water, and burn even hotter. (The driving reaction is the formation of sodium hydroxide.)

Speaking as a retired lab geek, IMPO at our present SOTA, it is pretty much impractical to build an EV that is even halfway “affordable” that will not end up as a rolling incendiary munition waiting to initiate.

clear ether

eon

It's become clear that there is a unique fire-hazard at risk with these L/I batteries.
Since that's the case, what about getting back to the idea of hydrogen power? Is the
fire-risk any worse? Is the resultant fire any worse, if/when one decides to ignite?
Any easier to extinguish for the fire-crews when such a thing happens?

My cousin runs a tow company here in AZ, and does a lot of recovery tows for DPS. Anytime he picks up an EV that has caught fire he has to isolate it in concrete barricades away from the rest of the cars in his yard.

 

[Dauph]

https://twitter.com/DanielTurnerPTF/status/1745514979321639072

 

[QuietM4]

The whole EV thing is just as much of a scam as "Global Warming".

Someone in .gov gets a bright idea that they can push an agenda that, on its surface, looks like a good idea. In reality, the amount of fossil fuels required to produce an EV vehicle, from the extraction, mining, refining, and shipping back and forth across oceans multiple times, VASTLY outweighs the amount of fossil fuels needed to produce (and operate for decades) a gasoline vehicle. I read a statistic that a Tesla vehicle needs to remain on the road for 170,000 miles before it is truly "carbon neutral". No one is going to keep a Tesla for that long...the battery won't last.

Now, that .gov person is paid by lobbyists to push the EV agenda, most likely has personal money invested in "renewables", and stands to make MILLIONS of dollars off their 'good idea'.

The only way to truly reduce carbon emissions is to build hundreds of small nuclear power plants. Not wind turbines or solar panels...NUCLEAR ENERGY. But, no one in the "global warming" camp is willing to admit that, because their motives are not truly based in saving lives, climate, carbon reduction, etc...their motives are based in making as much money from the hoax as possible.

 

[Dauph]

Just one of the biggest scams in our time. One agenda vs the other. What ever one gets the politicians rich.

Remember the oceans are rising but the “elites” are buying ocean front property.

 

[Dauph]

Anyone know more on this?

https://twitter.com/GKtheHunter/status/1745637324405506306

 

[xerts1191]

Your electric meter on the house would spin right out of the socket, and while we’re at it, lets shut down more coal plants

 

[Dauph]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=65&v=0b-w46UDdpo&feature=youtu.be

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=15&v=iFAtqWOaEgg&feature=youtu.be

 

[Doc]

Hopefully this pushes us into clean nuclear power.

 

[xerts1191]

This sh!ts hilarious