Would you considering living off grid if Democraps take the House and or Senate. I can see life can be a living Hell if they do. I rather struggle off grid than having Democraps telling me what is best for the American people. GOD help us if they win the White House. We don't need another loser like Obama.
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Flash said:
Yah, like, Siberia or the Sahara,... :lol: !
I live in what some could consider a remote area, and, I have a back up generator for power outages. I have too many animals to go without water for very long.
I have about a half dozen neighbors living off grid, here. Most do OK with that! Some did OK until a lightning strike took out one family's wind generator tower and the main circuit board. Then another family got hit by lightning and lost their main circuit system and a bunch of rather expensive storage batteries.
Seems like ,... BEING OFF GRID,... only succeeds when,... THE GRID SYSTEM,... is functioning and supplying parts.
When I was a lot younger, doing my pre 1900 period furniture reproductions and wood work,... I had the brain storm to go on a water wheel power system. I had a small stream on my land, two miles up the side of a mountain that I thought I could work with. A water wheel power source,... seemed like,... the closest thing to a system to be a truly OFF THE GRID SYSTEM,,... that I could come up with. But, I got lazy and decided to try using my chef knowledge to open a winter snowmobile restaurant instead.
Which, I operated ,... OFF THE GRID,... with my own well and propane gas lights, propane/gasoline generator power system, wood stoves, gas kitchen appliances, wood sauna/shower, gas powered distroylete (sp?)toilet system, out houses for customers.
But, up in Maine, we just called it daily living!
Which of course, depended entirely on,... THE GRID'S ,... supply of fuel and parts.
Sadly, the stark reality of a TRUE OFF THE GRID life style existence (IMO) would result in a creature comfort level of living, I doubt many would find very palatable.
Steve_In_29
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It's funny how many people think they are "off-grid"...while relying totally on the grid being there.
Steve_In_29
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It doesn't need to be that bad but it does need to be pre-industrial age.shooter444 said:
Steve_In_29
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Cave can be good for a dwelling, depends on the particular cave.shooter444 said:
I thought you were indicating the person would have to revert to a "cave man" level of existence.
I think most people envision 'off grid' to mean no electric service and that they would have solar power.I think of off-grid to be a little more than that but now, from the above comments I can see that the "GRID" also includes, fuel for vehicles, feed for animals, mail & package delivery from the Internet, news or streaming broadcasts, clothes and just about everything else one might not make themselves... as with everything, there are degrees of living off-grid.
Steve_In_29
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That's because I am not a mind reader and can only go by what you wrote as I have no idea what it is you might be thinking when you right it.shooter444 said:
Whole complete thoughts always help make things much clearer.
By the way just living in a cave doesn't necessarily mean the person is "off-grid" either. Caves can have grid power and plumbing, just takes some effort and a bit of money.
what's off the grid really going to do for you? It'll make current existence more of a challenge is all. You think if shtf you're good? Unless you have a private army, you'll be done, along with your family. A giant gang will roll up and move in.
IMO, the big population centers will always be primary targets of any governmental oppression. It takes very little effort to lock down Tucson or PHX and control millions; why bother with tiny enclaves?
I live in an unincorporated area of Cochise County, which is one of the best areas in the nation to live off grid. There are several communities here that are completely off grid. I am set up to go on indefinitely should the power etc go out, that's all I need. The SHTF, I just close my gate.
So more important than being able to turn the lights on when the SHTF, you need to make sure no one can see them and that hordes can't find you. If you are in a large population center, nothing you do is going to save you, period.
I live in an unincorporated area of Cochise County, which is one of the best areas in the nation to live off grid. There are several communities here that are completely off grid. I am set up to go on indefinitely should the power etc go out, that's all I need. The SHTF, I just close my gate.
So more important than being able to turn the lights on when the SHTF, you need to make sure no one can see them and that hordes can't find you. If you are in a large population center, nothing you do is going to save you, period.
hackopt said:
Hey hackopt,... you have a very interesting point of view on this topic, but, I have to disagree with you just a little.
First,... I can't imagine any more of a challenge than trying to survive in a city with no electricity, no food source, no running water and therefore no working sewage system. All of that is a guaranteed formula for a really shitty experience, imo!
And,... I feel it will be the CITIES that are full of the "GIANT GANGS" :roll: ,... not the country side/remote areas! Street gangs would have to have some relevant training to come into my area, thinking they could just roll up and move in.
This is just my point of view, definitely from a different perspective than yours,... but, I guess that's what makes the world go-round!
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