NY Attorney Dissolve the NRA

[knockonit]

It is unfortunate, but wlp seems to want to create the demise of the organization rather than step down and let it regain is day in the sun.

The coup of last year failed, so one can only come to conclusion to oust him is to create failure of the entity.
they were the gorilla in the room, but i think that day has passed with present atmosphere of their troubles
rj

 

[tlieberman240]

The current state of tribalism in this country has made it impossible for so many to call out their own when they're doing/have done something wrong.

The NRA is not exempt from scrutiny. Trump isn't either, but people will peddle excuses for him all day. That's another topic, though.

If their (the NRA) whole pitch is for people to become members and pay fees which are intended (in some way) to be directed towards advocacy and activism on behalf of the 2nd amendment, and they continue to not take real action in places that need it, then they deserve whatever they get.

At that point, they're no better than all the virtue signalling people on social media who change their profile picture in response to a tragic world event, acting as though they've done something, while - in reality - they've contributed nothing.

 

[Flash]

Who is calling for the demise of the NRA? Did you just make that up because you thought it sounded good? If not, point out who in this thread said they hoped for the NRA to be dissolved?

Well, since you seem to lack reading comprehension, here's a list and then I'm done with this thread.

impulse
gunsnboobs
jager
action magic
Maestro
tlieberman240

 

[High Standard]

I received an email this morning from the ASRPA. Apparently they met with the NRA-ILA grassroots person in charge of raising money. The ASRPA is asking for volunteers and donations to help out for the election. So while I am not seeing them spend any money, they certainly are trying to raise money out here.

I stopped giving money to the NRA last year when all of this came to light for me. I honestly thought Oliver North would be able to clean up this mess. I decided to give my money to the GOA and local gun clubs. I won’t give them another dime until this situation is cleared up. I am already a Patron Life Member so I have already given them enough money over the years. It’s time for those corrupt leaders to come clean and resign. This needs to stop now and we need new leadership to take the NRA forward. JMHO

 

[Pale Rider]

The vast majority of gun owners that I see and talk to, just want the NRA to use the funds wisely that we give them. The current people in charge have been playing billionaire with our money and it's not right. The attack on the NRA from these gun grabbing political operatives is even more appalling. If LaPierre and his cronies hadn't been playing rich guys with our money it never would have come to this. The gun grabbers will twist anything to attack the 2nd amendment and the NRA. That's the one thing that should have been learned by now. This was also done to cause conflict among us. This thread needs to be locked, it's completely unproductive now.

 

[tlieberman240]

Well, since you seem to lack reading comprehension, here's a list and then I'm done with this thread.

impulse
gunsnboobs
jager
action magic
Maestro
tlieberman240

Yeahhhhh.... I never said that lol.

This is exactly what I said above. People are unable to call out their own when they’re doing something wrong.

The point of the NRA is to advocate for the 2nd Amendment. If they’re going to continue to sit on the sidelines and take minimal action, then I have no interest in giving them my money, nor do I care what happens to them.

If, tomorrow, they did a 180 and became much more vocal and aggressive *in terms of ACTION* regarding pro 2A rights, then I’d happily support with my money and so forth.

But until I see that, my money will go to other groups and organizations that are ACTUALLY pro 2A; and not just pro gun

 

[xerts1191]

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/be-careful-what-you-wish-for-gun-grabbers-worry-nras-successor-would-be-more-far-more-pro-2a/
NRA Successor?

 

[xerts1191]

 

[Maestro]

Well, since you seem to lack reading comprehension, here's a list and then I'm done with this thread.

...
Maestro

I'm not disagreeing with you Flash. I really do feel that if they aren't doing what they are supposed to and have said they would do with our money then I won't shed tears if they go away.

That said, I actually would be totally cool with WLP and his cronies taking awesome vacations and having super nice bespoke suits if they actually worked toward accomplishing something for gun rights beyond their admittedly excellent firearms trainer/training. That is my basic problem with the organization.

Additionally, the fact that people think the idea of the NRA ceasing to exist as an organization would be so absolutely terrible for us gun owners is a little absurd to me. Nature abhors a vacuum. It is pure capitalism. I don't like your service, I don't partake in your company or care what happens to you. Someone else will fill that vacuum if they want my business. Our voting block is simply too big to ignore and we will have a different voice rise up.

 

[xerts1191]

Just got the big circular in the mail from the NRA, “WIN A BRAND NEW TRUCK”

 

[xerts1191]

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/wsj-irs-opens-a-criminal-investigation-of-wayne-lapierre/
WSJ reports IRS opens criminal investigation of Wayne

 

[xerts1191]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/11/18/nra-fined-fine-five-year-ban-selling-insurance-ny/3766244001/
Will 2.5 mil hurt?

 

[Flash]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/11/18/nra-fined-fine-five-year-ban-selling-insurance-ny/3766244001/
Will 2.5 mil hurt?

This is essentially the same thing that a number of other companies are selling as CCW insurance.

 

[smithers599]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/11/18/nra-fined-fine-five-year-ban-selling-insurance-ny/3766244001/
Will 2.5 mil hurt?

This is essentially the same thing that a number of other companies are selling as CCW insurance.

The difference being (according to the article) that the NRA didn't have an insurance license.

The state's investigation found the NRA earned commission on more than 28,000 sales on insurance products to its New York members, which the organization marketed in the state despite not having a proper insurance license.

I have no information one way or the other, but I am curious to know if any of those commissions found their way into the pockets of WLP, or any board member, or any company in which WLP or other board members had an ownership interest. Or their spouses, siblings, children, cousins, girlfriends, boyfriends, etc.

 

[xerts1191]

Good point

 

[smithers599]

NRA says, "OK, yeah, you caught us. WLP and others were getting into the cookie jar. Sorry."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/nra-reports-alleged-misspending-by-current-and-former-executives-to-irs/ar-BB1bmmpB?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBnb7Kz

 

[smithers599]

One thing is for certain - they were sidelined this critical election cycle.

Agreed. They were not a factor in this election, while a good argument could be made that they made the difference for Trump in the 2016 election.

If somebody were to say that the NRA cost Trump the 2020 election, I would tend to agree.

 

[Gunslinger808]

Everyone blames Trump for the bump stock ban, but what organization do you think sent him the thumbs up to ban them?

They in fact asked the ATF to review their stance on them.

Once again, their “compromise” slowly strips us of our rights.

 

[xerts1191]

Yes

 

[Cubiclerevolt]

They just called me again today.

Told them I frankly do not give a shit if they close up their doors. Instead of Wayne holding the tin cup for money he needs to slap a mag into a rifle and lead. Those assholes been calling me nonstop asking for money.