NRA in financial problems ?

[Azbuilder]

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/nra-financial-trouble-706371/

 

[shooter444]

Maybe the NRA should consider a more friendly state, to call corporate home.

 

[Harrier]

On one hand consider the source- RS is very anti-gun...
OTOH there is a real threat to shut off gun organizations from financial services.
I have had two of my NRA befits send me letters saying they were cancelling service under the NRA agreement but would graciously move me to another supplier...
... no thanks- just cancel my contribution to your business... I need the money to send to the NRA.

 

[knockonit]

well one way to cure the situation is get rid of the two money hogs, Im not a fan of cox or la pierre , they hvae milked the joint long enough, time to get someone new in that will actually do something other than bullshiate for money. i'm a life member unfortunately, not happy with the directon they have been going for years.

go with the local group, they at least communicate and work the crap outta the politicians.
azcdl, do it,
Rj

 

[Desert Rat]

I saw that article too, I thought there was a big influx of money into the NRA not too long ago after an anti 2A person called for a boycott of some type.
Good point on the source.

 

[xerts1191]

Rolling Stone? I’m calling fake news!

 

[Harrier]

These days, I tend to contribute to GOA more often because they actually fight for our rights. Another good one is 2nd Amendment Foundation. yes, i belong to AZCDL and although I am Methodist, I also support JPFO. You pretty much have to support as many gun groups as you can or there won't be any... one of these days...

 

[Blue109]

Irony being....if its fake news meant to lift the spirits of the poor antis, its only going to be spread around on pro gun forums and cause more donations.

Guess the last election didnt teach them anything.

 

[Joe_Blacke]

It’s fantasy.

Every legal claim is always highly exaggerated when it comes to description of harm inflected (e.g. a claimant in a slip and fall now suffers from anexiety and ptsd). Rolling stone just exaggerated it further to get the Dems all riled up.

If the NRA was really in financial danger you can bet your mailboxes would be flooded with tearful pleas for more donations before they are forced to cease operations.

 

[pvreb]

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If the NRA was really in financial danger you can bet your mailboxes would be flooded with tearful pleas for more donations before they are forced to cease operations.

My email inbox has been getting flooded for some time now.

 

[AZ1]

CNN also has an article on it

 

[storage_man]

The NRA has been burning thru attorney fee's for the last 3 years. They decided to pick a fight with the state of New York. Well Cumo is a self center prick, who said bring it on. Well more knowledgeable people all ready know that suing the Government is fools play. The state of NY has more money, can get more money and can even run a deficit to fight you in court. Guess where the fight is taking place ? I don't blame the NRA for trying it, because the state of NY basically placed a bounty on any company, Bank etc. that continues to do business with the NRA. IE: If your a bank and you do business with the NRA, you will be audited every month until you scream uncle ! Kind of like what the mafia does. Is it right NO, but sometimes you need to cut your losses and that's where LePiere is just as stubborn as Cumo.

JMHO

 

[Flash]

These days, I tend to contribute to GOA more often because they actually fight for our rights. Another good one is 2nd Amendment Foundation. yes, i belong to AZCDL and although I am Methodist, I also support JPFO. You pretty much have to support as many gun groups as you can or there won't be any... one of these days...

Contribute to GOA? I've never seen a list of anything they actually accomplished by themselves.

 

[knockonit]

hmm, lets see, cnn, rolling stone rag, yep, now there is some real truthtelling going on.

as for nra, get rid of the high end rollers on the dole and put some new blood in, time for the old guard to move on.

 

[Harrier]

These days, I tend to contribute to GOA more often because they actually fight for our rights. Another good one is 2nd Amendment Foundation. yes, i belong to AZCDL and although I am Methodist, I also support JPFO. You pretty much have to support as many gun groups as you can or there won't be any... one of these days...

Contribute to GOA? I've never seen a list of anything they actually accomplished by themselves.

Maybe that's how you see it but since the 90's while I have been a member, they have been in the forefront on national gun issues more often than I have heard of the NRA being in the fight.

Maybe the NRA does a lot outside of the spotlight and lobbying various govt critters, that we never hear about... we need every organization doing something on all fronts.

I don't know if your referring to instigating various court cases or sponsoring pro-gun legislation or what, but I believe they have been involved in those areas too..
I know the GOA has sent me regular pre-written postcards to send my congressmen and lots of pre-written emails (that I can modify as I like) on almost every recent legislative bill introduced. They have appeared at or written opinions in numerous court cases. They have written numerous articles for public rebuttal of the anti-gunners agenda and appeared on numerous TV & Media shows. I see them setting up tables at gun shows and do a lot of candidate reporting alerts to help ID pro-gun people running for office. There's too many things to list so if your interested look them up.

I don't get much of that from the NRA. If you read their magazines, all the way back to the 40's (cuz that's the oldest I have) they have been preach'in to the choir about gun rights and doing little to change the infringing laws while crying for more monetary support... They did nothing in 34 to stop the NFA law, they barely lifted a finger in 68 to stop the GCA, they threw machine gunners under the bus in the 80's and what did they do to help in 94?.. Recently they supported banning bump stocks while the GOA opposes it. Now don't get me wrong, I do think the NRA has its good points and everyone should be a member, but I don't trust them to fully support our cause because they have cut deals in the past that I wouldn't have approved.

Overall I think the GOA has been very visible at the public level and has done a lot of good for our issue.
I think there has to be a firm line drawn and the GOA seems to support that while the NRA seems to think some compromises are OK.
Actualy, I think the line in the sane has been passed by, a long time ago...

 

[Flash]

Just went to GOA's website. Checked their accomplishments. Essentially nothing. Here's a link: https://gunowners.org/fact-sheets.htm

So let's see, you don't like what they did in '34 or '68 or '94? What they did do was keep the legislation in those years from being much worse than it was. In Politics, if you take an "all or nothing" attitude, like the GOA's "no compromise" then what you get is nothing. A study of politics over the years will prove that to you. I don't like that, but I can't change it so I decide to deal with reality rather than my wishes.

So let's say the NRA takes an all or nothing viewpoint. When congress doesn't give them all and gives them nothing, what do they do then? Call for the second "shot heard round the world?"

 

[87jeep]

I support the AzCDL because they changed/removed laws for our good, Have not seen the NRA get very many laws changed/removed..... Just saying.

 

[Flash]

I support the AzCDL because they changed/removed laws for our good, Have not seen the NRA get very many laws changed/removed..... Just saying.

I'm a Life member of the AzCDL as is Mrs. Flash for this very reason. However, it's substantially harder to change Federal Law than it is to change State law.

 

[shooter444]

Well, I finally heard a news report comment that explains it all for me.

Seems as though NY/Cuomo complaint/legal action against the NRA claims
NRA's insurance sales to members, potentially protects members from possible prosecution for illegal shootings, that haven't happened.

So, as I see it, basically what they are claiming to do is, #1-judge a shooting as illegal before it even happens, without due process #2-judge a self defense shooter as guilty, without due process #3-act as THOUGHT POLICE, convicting and penalizing citizens because they think a crime COULD BE COMMITTED!

ALL BULLSHIT! Bottom line, Cuomo/NY has created another lefty socialist conspiracy attack on one of NRA's sources of revenue, period! NRA members buying insurance to have enough funds to defend themselves in a self defense shooting must drive Cuomo and his lefty socialist power mongers CRAZY!!!

With proper representation I predict a legal victory for the NRA, hands down. People can not be punished for a crime that hasn't been committed!

Why the NRA stays in NY is beyond sound business reasoning, imo.

 

[Flash]

Yep, the NRA will win this one easily.