North Phoenix crime increase.

[338lapua]

I have lived in north Phoenix for over 30 years with my last home at 26th ave Greenway.

On my last trip back I booked the LA Quinta right there as it was cheap and close to my dads as I was back because of heart attack and bypass.

Anyways, I spent a good deal of time all over the area up to union hills.. over to pv mall area and west to nearly arrowhead area. The place has quickly gone to s***. I'm back and forth several times a year but this is the first time in a few years I spent lots of time looking around. Scary for sure. I wouldnt pick ther to live anymore and when we come back for good we'll be going way further north or north west.

Supposed to be a big meeting about it tonight but I am not wasting my time, nothing but we are doing our best when they are ignoring the problem. Homeless camp on Union Hills west of 31st ave.

The whole town is having the same problems, even Arrowhead and Anthem.

 

[338lapua]

When I leave my house I usually drive a circle around the street to the west of me and the south of me looking for people parked who do not belong. I missed these two homeless effs this morning urban camping across the street from my house where my neighbor died a few months ago. Dog has went after them before and he caught their scent this morning and I was able to disturb their sleep. To the cops and emts on here stop saving these people when they od, heroin addiction is a self solving problem if you would stop meddling in it and saving their asses. Oh I forgot they crapped in the yard next door to this one.


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[harleypower69]

^ I like your dog a lot. Much respect for keeping your neighborhood clean of the trash.

 

[338lapua]

^ I like your dog a lot. Much respect for keeping your neighborhood clean of the trash.

They also camp behind a APS transformer around the corner from my house. I caught them earlier this year doing heroin behind the transformer where kids walk to school, she still had the needle in her arm. I took the dog in there and he was barking like the madman he is about 2 feet from them, they could hardly walk but they left. I made them leave their crap and go, threw it in the garbage after I found their stash. Going through their backpacks I found 7 garage door openers, 5 mp3 players, assorted cd's, these are the same assholes robbing cars in the neighborhood. I managed to return a couple garage door openers and smashed the rest.

Last winter the same guy was behind the aps box and the dog found him. He grabbed his sleeping bag and tore the hell out of it, I told the guy if you think you can take it away from the dog go for it, he went away without it.

 

[brandyspaw]

I have to agree that the North Phoenix area has changed dramatically. For example, my older brother moved to the area north of the Metro Center in the very late seventies and I watched how that area changed over time.

It was a great place to live and raise his family back then but by the turn of the century it had already gotten a horrendous increase in crime. As an observer, it was apparent that the increase in drugs and vagrants over time lead to the increases in the property crime there.

 

[mallic]

They turned all the apartments around metro center to section 8 housing.

I am at 19th ave and Thunderbird, and the area is a rapidly devolving garbage dump. People are hanging out at cave creek park all hours of the night. My neighborhood itself is usually fairly quiet, but I am glad that my house has a rotating roommate schedule that means someone is there 24/7.

I go down the street to the QT at i17 and Thunderbird and there are druggies and homeless there every night. The QT at i17 and Peoria is even worse. I am amazed that no one has tried to steal the entire amazon locker off that place. People hang out there just shooting the shit for hours at a time, even at 2 AM in the morning. Hell, I have gone to a Del-Taco at 3AM and while I was waiting in the drive-thru to get my food, have seen people openly hanging out in the parking lot smoking marijuana and doing drug deals.

As someone who grew up at 35th and Cactus and moved out to Glendale before the Glendale area went to shit, the stark differences between the neighborhoods I remember as a kid, and how the area is now are startling. It has always been a crap area in my life, but it never felt or seemed dangerous as a kid, just run down. Now I won't leave the house without my carry weapon. It's remarkable how bad the area has gotten in just the 15 years since I had lived here.

 

[rockbronco]

I was worried about forgetting to close the garage door. I installed an opener that closes automatically at a set time. Mine closes after 1 minuet.

This helps especially with my wife that can forgot once you had the kids in tow etc. I have it set to alert my phone if it’s left open for a set time then close automaticity.

Saved us from forgetting a few times already. Another nice feature with the ap is I don’t have to have the opener in the vehicle. I just use the app to open and shut the door

We are in northwest Peoria but has
Some increase in theft recently too, mostly just kids walking the streets testing for unlocked doors and ransacking what they find. Amazing what people leave in their unlocked vehicles at night.

What’s also impressive is what people are obvious too in their neighborhoods. I’ve caught strange vehicles rolling down the street taking pictures of homes. Turns out it was just a realtor taking pictures of comps in the area but you never know

 

[knockonit]

no doubt the nastiness has come to north phoenix, i've lived in the north central part for over 40 years, and watched it grow shiattier by the year. I live east of the divide so to speak, and its pretty well know our hood is watched by alot of daily homebound folks, and i'm in and out all day long, and the old gal works from home.
I made it a point to let nieghbor know if issue to call, as if home i can usually be there quicker, had some homeless trying to hang out in the hood, but we managed to run them out and keep them out, all while being only off cave creek road by a few blocks, I'm really not a nice neighbor, except in this aspect, I hate thieves and nar do wells, and make it my mission to keep them out of the area.
Cops don't do a thing, much like the traffic situation which i feel is out of control, the red light running is becoming a huge issue, especially at am and pm rush hours, folks just don't drive reasonably safe.

anyhow, if you want your area squared away, one has to take some interest in it, and work at it, if you rely on so called public officials, nothing will come of it.
Rj

 

[gunsnboobs]

Sucks that I have to bring this stuff up but it is getting out of control. Even some of the libtards on next door like the ones that got me banned from there are now starting to get upset. One of the ladies that helped me out the door has had her car robbed 6 times in a couple months as well as a bike stolen as well as stuff from the garage.

Recently got kicked off of next door myself, boy they really don't want to hear conservative viewpoints do they.

 

[XJThrottle]

I personally find it kinda funny that you all are trying to make the shit hole that is west Phoenix sound better by calling it north.

I live in south PHX, which carries the sterotype of being "ghetto". My GF used to live on 43rd/Tbird. That hood has 10 times the scum!

 

[338lapua]

Sucks that I have to bring this stuff up but it is getting out of control. Even some of the libtards on next door like the ones that got me banned from there are now starting to get upset. One of the ladies that helped me out the door has had her car robbed 6 times in a couple months as well as a bike stolen as well as stuff from the garage.

Recently got kicked off of next door myself, boy they really don't want to hear conservative viewpoints do they.

No they don't and they allow felons to see and post there. I knew my ban was coming so I downloaded all the names in my area. I had one of my guys run background checks and found most of the people who were complaining about me the most were all convicted felons. I gave all the info to nextdoor and they had remove about 20 people. I am in permanent read only mode.

Liberal politicians and our useless mayors are the primary reasons these problems exist. Had they enforced the laws on the books and prosecuted the problem people it would be less problems in the area

 

[gunsnboobs]

Sucks that I have to bring this stuff up but it is getting out of control. Even some of the libtards on next door like the ones that got me banned from there are now starting to get upset. One of the ladies that helped me out the door has had her car robbed 6 times in a couple months as well as a bike stolen as well as stuff from the garage.

Recently got kicked off of next door myself, boy they really don't want to hear conservative viewpoints do they.

No they don't and they allow felons to see and post there. I knew my ban was coming so I downloaded all the names in my area. I had one of my guys run background checks and found most of the people who were complaining about me the most were all convicted felons. I gave all the info to nextdoor and they had remove about 20 people. I am in permanent read only mode.

Liberal politicians and our useless mayors are the primary reasons these problems exist. Had they enforced the laws on the books and prosecuted the problem people it would be less problems in the area

I just tried logging in, changing password, LOL I'm done they won't even let me read only. Guess I pissed them off pretty good in just 8 weeks

 

[Harrier]

Most of my previous exposures to Phx has been in the Scottsdale-Beer Valley area but this time I just spent 5 weeks in various hotels around the north side of Phx...
one of them was the Extended Stay in Oldtown Scottsdale, looked nice from the outside but turned out to be one of the dirtiest places I've been in since the 70's. Saw plenty of low life's in the area and suspected some were staying around there.
then stayed at the Greentree in Mesa - It looked to me like low income housing- as if some social service was putting up the scum thinking they could keep them out of sight and out of mind- but their loud music at 3AM gave them away- mgmt did nothing. Another was the Red Roof at Bell & I-17 (a bit better but still slumming it) and another was the Hilton Pointe on 7th near Tbird (finally a decent place), so I was traveling Bell Rd and other local streets a lot. I couldn't believe some of the scat I saw, how dirty and run down the area looks and also the number of empty stores in the shopping strips. I sure wouldn't want to live there or pay the cost of NW Scottsdale.

Another tip, while I'm typing... when you park at the airport for a flight... take your registration, Insur ID and any other thing that has your address on it with you- thieves can get ahold of it and know your out of town and where you live. Also take all the bolts or slides off your guns, even in a safe, and hide them somewhere else- pawn shops and other FTF sales don't work so well with incomplete guns.

 

[338lapua]

Before I posted the first post in this thread myself and a couple others started watching these people and their leaders. This is some of what we found out. We have watched crews in a few areas.

Everyone thinks these are just random homeless people but a lot of them are of them are not. This is a organized street crime family to the point they control who stands on what corner, which corner makes the most money. It is even to the point where there are people in the group that provide security and there are enforcers if you step on their corner they will make you leave or attack you where you sleep. This is a organized criminal enterprise. I will say most of them are non violent and if confronted even with just a flashlight they will run. Pull out a phone and they vanish.

My chief of security used to be one of these people after leaving the Navy. He got caught on my property and when I started talking to him I offered him a onsite trailer as well as rehab to keep the other homeless away. He took it and is one of my most trusted. He has been clean for 6 years now. He talks about how organized this whole thing is with bosses which are a lot of times women or a couple and how you had to give her/them so much of your take per day. The boss of the crew would acquire places to stay, as well as make the decision where to work next to keep police pressure off of them. The boss also provides the drugs for the crew so they can work a sign on a corner or rob cars. She helped them work the system for food stamps, medical care and cash assistance and so on, you get a food stamps card and you give it to her so she can feed herself and everyone else. She also taught them about working cars in neighborhoods and parking lots, got them all hooked up with phones and even provided someone to come help clean out a garage when they found a garage door opener in a car. The boss also moves them from site to site and stands lookout for anyone watching while they work a parking lot. She also watches when they get a garage door opener and a address while she sends someone to clean out a garage. The boss lady who my security guy used to work for even pulled a train on all the guys who worked under her. When she got knocked up she has a lawyer who would help her adopt out/sell her baby, sometimes for up to 50-75K. He knows of 5 knock ups and baby sales. Women within the group who become pregnant also "adopt" out their babies and my guy believes she takes the largest portion of her money.

I am not going to go into full details but we did surveillance on the boss of his former crew and she lives in a gated community in a home worth over 450K. She has two daughters she didn't sell and they both run crews under her. They also service the needs of the crews sexually as moms baby factory is closed and "adopt" out babies for profit. They live is nice houses too. None of the crew EVER come to where they live, I bet none of them know where she lives.

These f***s on our streets, not all of them but a lot are part of criminal gangs that operate all over town and across the country with someone who organizes them as well as profits from them, keeps them on drugs and right on the edge of withdrawal so they are subservient to them. If we can figure all this out in just a few months where the f*** is the police going after RICO. Hell they even have the enforcers go to the corner sign workers and collect money throughout the day so they can't get enough to get their fix until the day is over and the boss provides it. They even have their own surveillance people watching their corners. If we can do this the police can do this and put an end to this shit once and for all.

When the police get a lot of calls about panhandlers in a area they force them to move. A cop who I will not even mention the area they work and it is not my area told me they are well aware of the problem and the higher ups block any action. When homeless calls reach a certain point they get the bosses to move the crew for a while until things cool off. I was told that I really should stop looking into this as I may stumble across information I really should not stumble across. While they are away they have guys on bikes who go back and forth to corners they work and run off anyone who is not part of the crew as well as empty their pockets, I talked to a homeless guy who I watched get ran off and he said he was told they would slit his throat as he slept if he worked that corner again. I bought him a meal for his information.

Now in my area we have multiple car crews working streets between 2-5am with 4 guys jumping out of cars and hitting every car on a street within a minute or two and then they jump several streets. They sometimes have a truck following where they deposit their scores. Just what we needed, more crap.

 

[willie8]

A monitored alarm system makes good sense. You can get a discount on your homeowners insurance.
I had a break-in several years ago and the alarm sent them leaving without taking anything. Just busted up front door.