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I have only been down twice in some 40 yrs of riding and both when I was a teen but on one of those I went down pretty hard right next to a housing project in East NY Brooklyn. While i was on the floor assessing wounds and trying to get my dislocated shoulder to stop talking to me 3 hoodrats come over with the rest of the gawkers and right my bike and start to push it away. When I said .. hey wTF they told me they were just going to move it to the side of the road. I had lived in that area, in that same housing project for some 16 years before moving out and I knew if they started walking off with the bike the bike was gone.

If a gun were attached to it not only would I have lost the bike and a gun but I would have armed some sh*t stain who would undoubtedly use it for evil and I just dont need that on my conscience.

I have been wearing OWB in the same place I always carry on my hip but it is kind of in the way of the wife holding on to my sides when she rides with me so I will at some point be making something like this for Bike carry.

I will certainly not look nearly as dashing but a light shirt over top and its easy to get to even if you are mounted.

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Mine will be a bit higher up.
 
I don't ride bikes any more , but I found out that it is not a bad idea to be able to draw the gun with your left hand so you can still control the throttle with your right hand.
 
Boriqua said:
I have only been down twice in some 40 yrs of riding and both when I was a teen but on one of those I went down pretty hard right next to a housing project in East NY Brooklyn. While i was on the floor assessing wounds and trying to get my dislocated shoulder to stop talking to me 3 hoodrats come over with the rest of the gawkers and right my bike and start to push it away. When I said .. hey wTF they told me they were just going to move it to the side of the road. I had lived in that area, in that same housing project for some 16 years before moving out and I knew if they started walking off with the bike the bike was gone.

If a gun were attached to it not only would I have lost the bike and a gun but I would have armed some sh*t stain who would undoubtedly use it for evil and I just dont need that on my conscience.

I have been wearing OWB in the same place I always carry on my hip but it is kind of in the way of the wife holding on to my sides when she rides with me so I will at some point be making something like this for Bike carry.

I will certainly not look nearly as dashing but a light shirt over top and its easy to get to even if you are mounted.

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Mine will be a bit higher up.

Well what did the hood rats do with your bike?
 
Don't know how much time you have spent in those type of areas but you have different varieties of slime. There are the aggressive ones that will just take your shit and stab, shoot or beat you in the process but the greater majority are more like jackals. They slink around in the corners and are opportunist.

I was pretty banged up and a crash is entertainment for the neighborhood so a fair crowd formed and there were people legitimately trying to see if I was ok. The bike stopped a good 15 yds from where I did.

These particular hood rats were just hoping in the commotion no one would notice that they walked off with the bike while they were at the edges of the crowd. Once I started to react they just dropped it and walked away as they ran the shit of "we was just moving it to the side"

Had I been unconscious or just not paying attention the bike would have just wandered off and noone would know where it went.

These are the same scavengers I have seen strip a man of his cloths when he has been mugged and is lying on the floor beaten and I even watched a few rape some girl that had just been raped and beaten. Watch the old Mutual of Omaha nature specials and you will get the jist.
 
If you’re right handed, I’d suggest learning to shoot/carry support side proficiently.
Shooting and controlling a bike both with the right hand only works on tv.
 
Sobrbiker said:
Shooting and controlling a bike both with the right hand only works on tv.

LOL .. I always yell at the TV when I see it. I have my bike set up a touch rich. If I dump the throttle closed it will immediately decelerate hard. Yet in the movies guys are traveling like 1/2 mile shooting with their right with no hand on the throttle and the bike never loses a beat.. Awesome. Been playing with these things a long time .. I havent figured out how to do that yet! :)
 
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Flash said:
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I dont know if that one has the lock but a thousand years ago a buddy got one that kind of rested in your palm and there was a thumb lock that would lock the throttle in a certain position. I guess it acted like cruise control.

At that point .. yea I guess you could deploy your silenced sub machine gun and have at it :)

I personally cant think of very many instances where I would need to fire from a moving bike but I could see you wanting quick access if you are sitting at a light. However one of a motorcycles pluses, depending on size, is their speed, acceleration and nimbleness. I have gotten out of more than a few tight situations with the proper amount of throttle and go.
 
So have I and you're right. You can get out of a lot of things on a bike. I always carried crossdraw so I could get it with either hand and I carried some truck lug nuts in my jacket pocket.
 
I hate to say this but if you lock your throttle to draw your gun thats more dangerous than just drawing your gun and letting the bike cost. Having a holster of some sort on the bike would allow you to draw from said bike without trying to fight with what ever your wearing to get to gun. I find that drawing from the bike I can reholster and take back control of bike with less risk of loosing control of bike.
 
HDS said:
I hate to say this but if you lock your throttle to draw your gun thats more dangerous than just drawing your gun and letting the bike cost. Having a holster of some sort on the bike would allow you to draw from said bike without trying to fight with what ever your wearing to get to gun. I find that drawing from the bike I can reholster and take back control of bike with less risk of loosing control of bike.

I have trouble thinking of many scenarios where shooting from a moving motorcycle is the answer of the day. Does the scenario exist .. sure but for the most part I have a gun on me for the same reasons I have one when in a car. Carjacking, being armed at my final destination and so on.

Truth is more than 50% of the people I run into at ranges cant score good hits at an air conditioned well lit indoor range, using the perfect stance and grip of the day at 10 yds. Hitting your target and not wiping out while moving along on a bike while possible .. is certainly not the best choice.

So lets hear it .. Fuk you alex you dont know what you are talking about.

I had to ride my stupid ass out of the 1977 Brooklyn black out at night.

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While it was not a ton of fun riding out of this while they were setting tires on fire and closing streets and people kept leaping out to grab my bars as I passed .. I was glad to be on a bike because some people caught up in cars didn't have a good time of it.

There was no amount of portable firepower shot from a moving bike that was going to get me out of this. If I lost control and went down I was done.

I think the rig I will eventually make will allow me to draw left or right handed while still allowing a certain degree of comfort even when the wife joins me.
 
Boriqua said:
HDS said:
I hate to say this but if you lock your throttle to draw your gun thats more dangerous than just drawing your gun and letting the bike cost. Having a holster of some sort on the bike would allow you to draw from said bike without trying to fight with what ever your wearing to get to gun. I find that drawing from the bike I can reholster and take back control of bike with less risk of loosing control of bike.

I have trouble thinking of many scenarios where shooting from a moving motorcycle is the answer of the day.


Have you seen the documentary series Mad Max?

I happened to be in Sturgis a few years ago during the big Harley event, and surprisingly I saw quite a few people with firearms strapped to their bikes. It was usually a big ass revolver that would be impossible to shoot accurately while moving, but I'm sure it was all for show rather than practical application. Saw a few Winchester 94's in rifle scabbards meant for horseback.

Of course you're correct; most people can't hit a stationary target 25 yards away while standing still.

Maybe Ranger1/HDS could teach a course for us all.
 
I happened to be in Sturgis a few years ago during the big Harley event, and surprisingly I saw quite a few people with firearms strapped to their bikes.

I have seen some of those and the leather work is AMAZING!

The other thing to take into account on deciding bike mounted or person mounted. If anyone has ever been down or watched someone go down .. the bike doesn't miraculously stop where you do. So here you are with an angry "rodney king riot" type mob coming on you while you are seated on the floor and your bike is 20 yds away ... WITH THE GUN ATTACHED!

Is the gun mounted on the left side and the bike is laying on its left?

If the gun is on your person you can at least stand and draw and go down fighting. Often it only takes the sight of it or a round to go off and the slime find an easier target or it stalls them just long enough for you to get back to your bike and hope it starts.
 
Saddle guns were in addition to side arms. If you are serious about why you carry you really should have both for the same reason those who rode horses did. More so for reloading issues.

This said I always carried on body strong side. I figure shooting or hauling ass out of the situation is an either or prospect. At least that's what I told myself. Especially since I couldnt afford a second "saddle gun" or able to safely keep the gun if you leave your ride for what ever reason.


I quit riding in the late 90s cause I spent more time dodging igits than enjoying the riding experience. Add to that I used to really enjoy the ride from north central/north east Phoenix out to work and the range, i.e. goodyear buckeye, but that stopped after 3 officers/friends were killed going up or across the 303 by phucktards who think stop signs with white outlines are only a suggestion.

I had no use for bikes anymore after seeing those deaths. That's all I wanna say about that.

One of those guys was the one who opend my eyes to adult legos. All the fun modularity of the AR pattern rifle
 
Do you guys have any books published out there. I mean you seem to.know how everyone rides and what everyone can and can't do. Right? Assumption is the mother of all fu&k ups.
 
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