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Well here it is. Assault weapons, military style weapons and high capacity magazines are out. Now the public can start throwing rocks at bad guys.
https://splinternews.com/new-zealand-announces-sweeping-gun-ban-just-six-days-af-1833457589
 
New Zealand’s gun laws prior to the massacre were [highlight=yellow]already more stringent than those in the U.S[/highlight]. According to Vox, every gun owner in New Zealand is required to have a license. Applicants for a gun license are screened for criminal records, histories of violence, drug and alcohol use, and relationships to dangerous people, among other criteria. They are required to complete a gun safety course and renew their licenses every ten years. All military-style semiautomatic rifles (MSSAs) in New Zealand were already required to be registered with the government.
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So, they already had (almost) every law the libs are proposing: universal background checks, enhanced background checks, and registration of EBRs. And they still had a mass shooting! There's proof that none of the proposed liberal laws would work.

They only thing left on their list is to prohibit EBRs. That might (or might not) work in New Zealand. New Zealand has a population of around 5 million. (Just Maricopa County is around 4,000,000.) It is an island nation, with no borders with Mexico, Canada, or any place from which guns could be smuggled. Unlike the island nation of Great Britain, it is not an easy boat ride across a short span of water; New Zealand is unreachable without crossing huge expanses of ocean.

New Zealand citizens possess perhaps 90-100,000 EBRs. The members of this forum probably have 90-100,000 EBRs. There are millions and millions of EBRs in the US, most unregistered, most owned by people who have much stronger feelings about the subject than New Zealanders. Good luck trying to round them up.

Even at that, it will be interesting to see what kind of compliance they will get. It will be interesting to see how many police officers soldiers call in sick when the boss says, "There is a guy out there who owns an EBR and has refused to turn it in. Go to his house and take it."
 
If one were to look beyond all the rhetoric and the feel good propaganda legislation,...all you get is,...

REGISTRATION = CONFISCATION = ENSLAVEMENT

Which is why our founding fathers included restrictions on our centralized federal government employees, with the 2nd amendment in the Bill of Rights section of our Constitution!

Our founding fathers provided for all USA citizens, to always be armed, and defend themselves against any acts of tyranny by our federal employees!
 
You guys are catching on. It's a soft take over. Law abiding citizens will continue to follow the law. Next it will be hunting rifles and then shot guns. After that bow and arrows will need to be registered. New Zealand is a testing ground for the US.
 
New Zealand is just a domino in the One World Government Disarmament Agenda ,... FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD,... look at what they have accomplished throughout all of Europe!!!
 
Burnie Sanders just came out and said
" U.S. Must Follow New Zealand's Lead And Ban Assault Weapons. Almost makes you think that this guy was a employee of the Democratic party????
 
makes perfect sense to ban those "evil assault rifles"...it will stop all their violent crime immediately!

we have been down this discussion trail countless times, all I see is gun sales skyrocketing in NZ. If it was to happen here, the people wouldn't stand for it, but I doubt NZers will fight back.
 
Look at it from the other side. If I were to ban guns from the public you would think I would have a problem retrieving them in a confiscation right. Not really. I wouldn't make my cops go get them. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. For now. I would deputize all the gang bangers pay them to go get the guns. They have no problem killing people and if some die O well. Start thinking like your enemy to understand what's next. In order to do this you have to be a bad person in part. You just do things differently.
 
Thinking like your enemy, is a great tactic, when executed correctly.

But,... an incorrect decipher of an enemies thinking, will get you dead,... real quick,... where I come from.
 
If I wanted to hurt someone but not take any casualties I would pay someone that I didn't care if they lived or died to do it. That's how I would do it.
 
Annnd,...If I wanted to find out who sent a merc to hurt me, I would pay him twice as much for info on who sent him, and then go do some of my own hurt'n,... that's how I would do it,... where I come from.

:whistle:
 
Ranger1 said:
Look at it from the other side. If I were to ban guns from the public you would think I would have a problem retrieving them in a confiscation right. Not really. I wouldn't make my cops go get them. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. For now. I would deputize all the gang bangers pay them to go get the guns. They have no problem killing people and if some die O well. Start thinking like your enemy to understand what's next. In order to do this you have to be a bad person in part. You just do things differently.
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Ya let's put you in charge.

Have you ever seen gang bangers in an actual shoot out? I think even the NYPD are slightly better at executing such things. Unless killing innocents is your intent I'd rethink your tactics. Unless that inner brown shirt is fighting to get out.

The only way they will get guns is if people turn them in instead of saying come get em.
 
Have you ever been to Somalia? I have seen skinnies have you. That's right. If I wanted to do something I would find the fastest way to my goal. Maybe bring in the UN. They have no skin in the game. Yah that's it. They wouldn't care about Americans I would send a army to your house and take your guns anyway possible. Now if you think like I do, you know what is possible. Plan on it. Nothing personal just buisness. You want to fight a warlord think like one. If I wanted to come and get you and money was no object, nothing would stop me. I would use any means necessary. Now do you understand. If I think like that so does 100 others. I'm just telling you what is possible from someone like your government that could care less for your life. I happen to like you old farts
 
The #1 threat to the gun community is heart disease. #2 threat is probably cancer.

Actual gun-related threats are probably way down the list.

But if we spent as much money supporting gun-related political causes we'd be so much further ahead. We sit around showing off our $2500 fancy guns but are too lazy to give $100 to an organization that is actively doing pro-gun things like AZCDL for example. What if instead of being that guy that builds his 18th AR-15 you're the guy that convinced 18 people to vote for a pro-gun candidate? And every member on the forums did that?
 
Somalia is not the US. Removing guns from Americans will not be like hijacking aid shipments and pretending to be warlord in a 3rd world shit hole. Any problems encountered in Somalia were due to the typical half assed hand tied tactics made famous through out the periods between WW2 and Desert Storm. Followed closely by running away cause your nose was bloodied. If you're not willing to go till the end when bad shit happens then dont go. Committing troops isnt a table top exercise where you can stop when they sink your battle ship or shoot down a couple helos and then overwhelm you for a short time due to numbers and the failure of political leaders and arrogance of people not even in Theater.

I'm not blaming soldiers so calm your "how dare you question me, I've seen the elephant" ass hairs as that's not what I'm saying. If being there made one an expert then why does the same mistakes happening? No, I'm saying drugged crazed tards taking advantage of our mistakes in a completely different situation and environment doesnt make them what you're making them out to be. It doenst translate.

First Americans arent starving submissive post apocalyptic beaten serfs. Second, like I said gang members arent going survive if they attempt your gun grab even if you ignore the obvious track record of the cowards tactics and abilities. For The same reason that there are not enough police and military members in the entire country to take guns. I'll bet there are more gang member than police and military who would participate in such a violation of their oath and still wont be enough. This isnt some 70s b movie or basic cable tv series. You're talking about taking something people just arent willing to give up.

You use gang members and thugs after you disarmed the population and half starve them to death.
 
:liar: [glow=red]I'm just trying to get people to think outside the box[/glow] :liar:


And, here I thought you were just trying to bait people into an aggressive reaction to your outlandish concepts,... my bad. :whistle:
 
It you think what I said hasn't already been used in the United States at a smaller scale you are delusional.
 
Ranger1 said:
It you think what I said hasn't already been used in the United States at a smaller scale you are delusional.
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And, if you think folks should credit your hypothetical pablum shiat with any merit, without verification,... you are more than delusional!!!
 
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