Masks and lack of common sense

[Suck My Glock]

Well,...that's one way to ensure social distancing.

 

[Java Junkie]

That is f***ing gross WTF!

 

[gunsnboobs]

Guarantee you majority of the people on this forum will take the vaccine and the chip in the hand Bill Gates wants them to take to be over with this, guaranteed. I will either leave the country at that time and go live on the boat or die fighting them over it. More than likely the boat as people in this country really aren't worth fighting for anymore.

This is hilarious, I hope you've met the majority of the people on this forum ...otherwise you're an A@@hat.

You will be in that line.

You don't know jack about sheet.

 

[Miker12]

https://questioningcovid.com/

 

[action magic]

....and Douchey strikes again. 2 more weeks (minimum) of closures. Get the economy, employment restarted - nope, just raise taxes. That will make it all better...

 

[Miker12]

IF you all don't have a clue on where this is going by October with RINO Douchey and you are not preparing for it in better eating, exercise, more practice ammo shooting, more savings / less spending and prepping for a year or more of SHTF....

 

[Suck My Glock]

UPDATE:

https://www.theblaze.com/news/walmart-home-depot-mask-policy-stores?utm_source=theblaze-breaking&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20200726Trending-WalmartHomeDepotMasks&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Breaking%20News

Walmart, Home Depot and other retailers walk back face mask mandates, will serve maskless customers

 

[smithers599]

UPDATE:

https://www.theblaze.com/news/walmart-home-depot-mask-policy-stores?utm_source=theblaze-breaking&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20200726Trending-WalmartHomeDepotMasks&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Breaking%20News

Walmart, Home Depot and other retailers walk back face mask mandates, will serve maskless customers

To all those people who said "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore," and got arrested -- thank you!

 

[338lapua]

They are shoving it right in our faces.

 

[Lobo2087]

That man was incredibly patient. I am not sure many people could have not retaliated

 

[Pale Rider]

As soon as she went to her car he should have run over and stabbed her f***ing tires in the sidewall with a pocket knife. See how she likes paying $500 for a new set.

 

[Grayland]

I am confused by the strong objection of mask wearing. I strongly object to political asshats forcing people to do things. I do not like to wear a mask, period. But...it is not that bad and really easy to do after you get over the political objection.

I do wear a mask when around crowds or when it seems easier than having another confrontation with a self righteous idiot. Although, sometimes, I do go out of my way to provoke one of the jerks just to pass the time.

 

[smithers599]

I am confused by the strong objection of mask wearing. I strongly object to political asshats forcing people to do things. I do not like to wear a mask, period. But...it is not that bad and really easy to do after you get over the political objection.

I do wear a mask when around crowds or when it seems easier than having another confrontation with a self righteous idiot. Although, sometimes, I do go out of my way to provoke one of the jerks just to pass the time.

I will try to help clear up your confusion. For me:
It has nothing to do with discomfort or inconvenience. If I thought it would help, I would do it voluntarily.
I object because it is not based on science. Masks do not prevent the spread of the Wuhan virus any more effectively than wearing a chicken feather on your head. Wearing a chicken feather on your head is not very uncomfortable or inconvenient, but it is stupid, and I don't like stupid. ("But my feather protects you and your feather protects me!")
It has nothing to do with not taking the Wuhan virus seriously. It's a serious virus, and it makes some people very sick, and makes some people die. But masks do nothing to help, any more than sacrificing a goat does. ("My goat protects you, and your goat protects me! Why do you want people to die? Think of the children!")

British Medical Journal:

https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1422
...
They concluded, “The evidence is not sufficiently strong to support widespread use of facemasks as a protective measure against covid-19. However, there is enough evidence to support the use of facemasks for short periods of time by particularly vulnerable individuals when in transient higher risk situations.”

Commenting on these findings, Simon Clarke, associate professor in cellular microbiology at the University of Reading, said, “There is only very limited evidence of the benefits of wearing face masks by the general public, no evidence that wearing them in crowded places helps at all, and no evidence at all yet related to covid-19 . . . The authors also acknowledge that mass face mask wearing by the public would likely cause shortages among people who genuinely need protective equipment—healthcare workers on the front line in our hospitals.”

 

[smithers599]

https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/ (American Association of Physicians and Surgeons)

Conclusion: Wearing (surgical) masks will not reduce SARS-CoV-2.
- N95 masks protect health care workers, but are not recommended for source control transmission.
- Surgical masks are better than cloth but not very efficient at preventing emissions from infected patients.
- Cloth masks will be ineffective at preventing SARS-CoV-2 transmission, whether worn as source control or as personal protective equipment (PPE).
-“Masks may confuse that message and give people a false sense of security. If masks had been the solution in Asia, shouldn’t they have stopped the pandemic before it spread elsewhere?”

 

[Pale Rider]

Ya gotta laugh,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut7efG_mqcc

 

[smithers599]

Jennifer Fontius, MD
9377 E Bell Road, Suite 225
Scottsdale, AZ. 85260
Tel 480.563.3211 Fax 480.999.3966

July 13, 2020
Cara M. Christ, M.D., M.S.
Director, Arizona Department of Health Services
150 N 18th Ave
Phoenix, AZ 85007
Dear Dr. Christ,
SARS-CoV-2 is a novel viral strain that months ago had many unknowns. As such, early government
policies aimed to “flatten the curve” were appropriate to buy time to equip our hospitals and conduct more studies. However, over the course of the past few months, much has been learned about the virus, models have proven grossly inaccurate, and our hospitals have never been overwhelmed. My question to you is why is this new data not being presented to our citizens, and why are our public policies not keeping up with national and international studies?
1. Children need to go back to school. There is now overwhelming evidence from many international studies showing children are at minimal risk for serious illness due to COVID-19, and they do not transmit the virus. Does every school in every other country need to reopen before we reopen ours?
Why is the decision of whether to reopen schools being left to school boards, teachers and
parents who have no medical education and are not privy to the abundance of studies that now
show keeping children out of school will do them more harm?
2. Stop the lockdowns. Emerging studies are showing no spread in the community (shops, restaurants, etc), and even the WHO’s technical lead for COVID-19 response, after studying reports from countries doing detailed contact tracing, stated asymptomatic transmission is “rare.” Furthermore, numerous studies have shown upwards of 80% of infections occur in the home and COVID-19 is not spread outdoors. So why do we continue to lock gyms, restrict restaurants and prohibit outside gatherings? No U.S. or international study has shown lockdowns provide any measurable decrease in viral spread; in fact, they have overwhelmingly shown lockdowns have had overall deleterious effects.
The IHME, whose COVID-19 models have proven so faulty that it has come under immense criticism
by the international science community, continues to dictate our public policies. The immeasurable
collateral damage created by these flawed and unethical policies is too great to discuss here, but
to continue these measures in light of this new abundance of data is both irrational and
unconscionable.
3. Throw the masks aside. PLEASE. In your many years of medical training and practice, has the
WHO or CDC ever advised healthy people to wear masks? No, because years of studies have
repeatedly shown them to be ineffective in decreasing the spread of respiratory infections.
Surgeon General Jerome Adams urged healthy people not to wear masks and warned that masks could
actually increase one’s risk of contracting COVID-19 until he was forced to relent due to public
pressure. The WHO emphasizes social distancing, hand and respiratory hygiene, not masks, and its
Interim Guidance dated June 5th states masks have only “potential benefit” and must be weighed
against their many potential harms and disadvantages. The WHO’s recent update on June 19th
regarding non-medical, fabric masks states, with few exceptions, “there has been limited evidence
on their effectiveness and the WHO does not recommend their widespread use among the public
for control of COVID-19.” So not only have masks been discounted, they have known risks and
adverse effects for many people who are needlessly and unfairly required to wear them. Why are you
allowing a dearth of reputable, peer reviewed studies to dictate policy while ignoring an
abundance of longstanding and reproducible science?
Dr. Christ, you are in a unique position as a physician and public health leader to guide our citizens
through this pandemic. As one physician to another, I urge you to challenge the media and correct
the current narrative that has already caused so much irreparable harm. Guide our policy makers to
make the right decisions based on legitimate data rather than politics and fear. Arizona is currently in the spotlight of this pandemic; your actions and words will be watched well beyond our state borders. Please use this unique opportunity to be the voice of so many well-meaning physicians who have been
unjustly silenced, and do what is best for our citizens’ well-being.
Respectfully,
Jennifer Fontius, MD

 

[xerts1191]

:clap:

 

[OH-MAN]

This was so cut and dried until it became a political football.

 

[Winmagbill]

Wish her specialty was in Epidemiology and not weight loss. Would really carry a lot more Impact for me. Would also like to see the Studies she is siting . Would like to not see the WHO sited as an authority (thought they were discredited as a Chinese puppet). Not sure why she is saying CDC isn’t recommending masks: they are. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/cloth-face-cover-guidance.html .

 

[YNOTAZ]

And yesterday at Sam's club a full hazmat suit for a paper towel and styro cup run.

Yep, you can't see but gloves, respirator, and eye protection.



How stupid can people be?