Masks and lack of common sense

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Hunter

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I'm really a witts end with the amount of people in this country that are simply blind order followers. Stay home, close your business, wear this, stay this far away from your fellow man. And people obey like it's the word of God himself (Yes God is a masculine figure for all you triggered douch bags)

Now let's try a little common sense. The size of the Rona virus is between..125 and .300 microns. An N95 mask filters down to .3 microns. So with perfect mask fit, proper hand washing both putting on and taking off, the N95 won't stop the Rona. But the nasty side effects of N95 are Hypoxia, low blood oxygen levels.

That durag, neck stocking or mouth thong 90 percent of you are wearing filters down to about 3 microns. So go get a hotdog out of the fridge and throw it down the hallway and see if it sticks to anything. My guess is no.

In reality wearing this crap puts you at greater risk cause I ain't seen one swing dick yet follow proper had washing, but let's say you do. And let's say your mask catches the virus. Now what? Your warm moist breath is a perfect breeding ground and you just keep breathing the virus in and out. You just made it worse, congratulations

There are shitloads of Randomized Controlled Studies on this going back decades if you care to look. But this ain't rocket science, it's common sense. This is simply a test to see what percentage of the generally dumb public will follow a politicians orders.
 
I’m no scientist but when you look at how this pandemic has been handled worldwide The big difference between the USA and everywhere else it has been handled successfully is mask use and stay at home orders. Some Asia countries that have suffered through other Virus epidemics didn’t even need “orders”. They saw what might be coming and masked up to protect themselves and fellow citizens. Result was almost 100% Mask use rate and exceptional low virus transmission leading to low case counts and fatality. Or maybe it was something else. So Let’s just keep doing what we’re doing cause we’re America and we’re number 1.
 
I've read countless op eds by actual real epidemiologists and non political experts. They all say the same thing. Masks are a joke or actually making things worse. Also this: if this virus was being spread mainly by airborne transmission; then the heat and humidity in the summer would cause it to go away on it's own. The fact that it isn't is because it's mainly a fecal type transmission. Poor hygiene mainly not washing hands after touching infected things (people and objects) then touching your face is the reason it's still spreading in the summer. These are facts about viruses that can't be disputed, yet here we are with morons like fake Dr Fauci and the rest of the idiots telling everyone to wear a mask and hardly mentioning hygiene, when they should know better. This leads to only one conclusion, they're lying on purpose.
 
Of course they're lying. The Democrats are willing to do anything, including tanking the economy and bankrupting millions of people in an effort to make Trump look bad so they can win the November election.

That's what the whole mask thing is about. Nothing more or less.
 
They are also willing to kill tens of thousands of people lying about all of it to try to get rid of Trump. These monsters are mass murderers to say the least.
 
Flash said:
Of course they're lying. The Democrats are willing to do anything, including tanking the economy and bankrupting millions of people in an effort to make Trump look bad so they can win the November election.

That's what the whole mask thing is about. Nothing more or less.

Pale Rider said:
They are also willing to kill tens of thousands of people lying about all of it to try to get rid of Trump. These monsters are mass murderers to say the least.



So the Democrats also are responsible for the case counts And deaths in Brazil, Italy, England, South Africa,... ? Are Republicans responsible for turning things around in New York City or did the Democrats there decide not to be a team player?
 
Nobody's tried to mask shame me or Mrs. Flash. I think they take one look at me looking at them and decide they have urgent business elsewhere.

If you look like you won't put up with their horse manure they leave you alone.
 
Pale Rider said:
I've read countless op eds by actual real epidemiologists and non political experts. They all say the same thing. Masks are a joke or actually making things worse. Also this: if this virus was being spread mainly by airborne transmission; then the heat and humidity in the summer would cause it to go away on it's own. The fact that it isn't is because it's mainly a fecal type transmission. Poor hygiene mainly not washing hands after touching infected things (people and objects) then touching your face is the reason it's still spreading in the summer. These are facts about viruses that can't be disputed, yet here we are with morons like fake Dr Fauci and the rest of the idiots telling everyone to wear a mask and hardly mentioning hygiene, when they should know better. This leads to only one conclusion, they're lying on purpose.

I recall the predictions in March and April that we here in the sun belt would be less likely to get infected once summer came because of how the virus can't stand the heat. Also that traditional yearly flu viruses tended to spread in winter because people were usually in closer proximity to each other trying to stay close to heat sources so as to not freeze.

Now it seems that the same cold weather phenomenon works in reverse here during air conditioner season. With this thing being airborne, and everyone staying indoors so as to not sweat their balls off,...results in folks being in boxed up environments with recirculated air,...breathing in the infected exhaust of people with the virus. The larger the building with more people,...the more likely you are to suck in that chit. Ergo,...the surges we are seeing in sun belt states, while the cooler climes like New York and elsewhere up there are reducing in frequency. There's an awful lot of cases in sunny Commiefornia despite their order-following lemmings and draconian BS.
 
Also, the reporting is straight up fraudulent, so there simply is NOT the number of cases we are being told exist. They simply don't. The best example of this is what we keep seeing every day with regards to this nearly non-existent testing regime. We keep hearing people signed up for the test & went to testing site but left early because of long lines. Despite not taking the test, they get notified later that they've tested positive. The data procedure has been revealed that if patients refuse a Covid test when they come into doctors office or hospital, they get marked as a “probable” Covid and then all probables are turned into CDC as positives.

Now obviously the fatalities number should not be so easily flubbed,...yet we keep seeing people dead from non-virus causes getting labelled as Covid deaths.

Obviously the virus is real and obviously is cause for concern and should be treated in serious fashion.

But the lies and fraudulent data and all the other incompetent BS we get fed every day,...phuc that noise! Thier lips are moving. That's all I need to know. I'll use my brain, thank you very much.
 
Suck My Glock said:
Pale Rider said:
I've read countless op eds by actual real epidemiologists and non political experts. They all say the same thing. Masks are a joke or actually making things worse. Also this: if this virus was being spread mainly by airborne transmission; then the heat and humidity in the summer would cause it to go away on it's own. The fact that it isn't is because it's mainly a fecal type transmission. Poor hygiene mainly not washing hands after touching infected things (people and objects) then touching your face is the reason it's still spreading in the summer. These are facts about viruses that can't be disputed, yet here we are with morons like fake Dr Fauci and the rest of the idiots telling everyone to wear a mask and hardly mentioning hygiene, when they should know better. This leads to only one conclusion, they're lying on purpose.

I recall the predictions in March and April that we here in the sun belt would be less likely to get infected once summer came because of how the virus can't stand the heat. Also that traditional yearly flu viruses tended to spread in winter because people were usually in closer proximity to each other trying to stay close to heat sources so as to not freeze.

Now it seems that the same cold weather phenomenon works in reverse here during air conditioner season. With this thing being airborne, and everyone staying indoors so as to not sweat their balls off,...results in folks being in boxed up environments with recirculated air,...breathing in the infected exhaust of people with the virus. The larger the building with more people,...the more likely you are to suck in that chit. Ergo,...the surges we are seeing in sun belt states, while the cooler climes like New York and elsewhere up there are reducing in frequency. There's an awful lot of cases in sunny Commiefornia despite their order-following lemmings and draconian BS.

Read this, it explains it quite well:

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=239710
 
The point of my post was between the lines, don't wear a flippin mask when you go out. Peroid!!

Cause I'll tell what's coming next, after a couple months of this they'll rush out a vaccine that enjoys liability protection, like all Vaccines do, that you have to have to go out in public.
 
From the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons:

https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/
Conclusion: Wearing masks will not reduce SARS-CoV-2.
• N95 masks protect health care workers, but are not recommended for source control transmission.
• Surgical masks are better than cloth but not very efficient at preventing emissions from infected patients.
Cloth masks will be ineffective at preventing SARS-CoV-2 transmission, whether worn as source control or as personal protective equipment (PPE).
“Masks may confuse that message and give people a false sense of security. If masks had been the solution in Asia, shouldn’t they have stopped the pandemic before it spread elsewhere?”
*The first randomized controlled trial of cloth masks. https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/4/e006577
• Penetration of cloth masks by particles was 97% and medical masks 44%, 3M Vflex 9105 N95 (0.1%), 3M 9320 N95 (<0.01%).
• Moisture retention, reuse of cloth masks and poor filtration may result in increased risk of infection.

• The virus may survive on the surface of the face- masks
• Self-contamination through repeated use and improper doffing is possible. A contaminated cloth mask may transfer pathogen from the mask to the bare hands of the wearer.
• Cloth masks should not be recommended for health care workers, particularly in high-risk situations, and guidelines need to be updated.
 
British Medical Journal:

https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1422

But are they effective?

Very little good quality research exists on the use of cloth masks, especially in non-medical settings. One randomised controlled clinical trial of cloth masks, published in BMJ Open in 2015, compared their effectiveness with that of medical masks worn by hospital healthcare workers.2 The study, involving the industry partner 3M (which makes medical masks), reported that healthcare workers “should not use cloth masks as protection against respiratory infection. Cloth masks resulted in significantly higher rates of infection than medical masks, and also performed worse than the control arm.”

In an updated comment on the study (30 March),3 the authors said, “There have been a number of laboratory studies looking at the effectiveness of different types of cloth materials, single versus multiple layers and about the role that filters can play. However, none have been tested in a clinical trial for efficacy.”

They also advised healthcare workers who choose to wear cloth masks to “have at least two and cycle them, so that each one can be washed and dried after daily use. Sanitizer spray or UV disinfection boxes can be used to clean them during breaks in a single day. These are pragmatic, rather than evidence-based suggestions, given the situation.”

A preprint of a rapid systematic review has assessed the current evidence on respiratory illnesses and the use of face masks (mainly surgical paper masks) in community settings.4 The paper, yet to be peer reviewed, included 31 studies, of which 12 were randomised controlled trials. The researchers reported that “wearing facemasks can be very slightly protective against primary infection from casual community contact, and modestly protective against household infections when both infected and uninfected members wear facemasks.” However, they said that many of the studies “suffered from poor compliance and controls.”

They concluded, “The evidence is not sufficiently strong to support widespread use of facemasks as a protective measure against covid-19. However, there is enough evidence to support the use of facemasks for short periods of time by particularly vulnerable individuals when in transient higher risk situations.”

Commenting on these findings, Simon Clarke, associate professor in cellular microbiology at the University of Reading, said, “There is only very limited evidence of the benefits of wearing face masks by the general public, no evidence that wearing them in crowded places helps at all, and no evidence at all yet related to covid-19 . . . The authors also acknowledge that mass face mask wearing by the public would likely cause shortages among people who genuinely need protective equipment—healthcare workers on the front line in our hospitals.”

But Ian Jones, professor of virology at the University of Reading, said, “If an aerosol droplet hits the weave of the mask fabric rather than the hole it is clearly arrested. And lessening the aerosol dose chips away at the R0 [reproduction number] and helps to slow the epidemic . . . They are not a cure but they address the longer flatter epidemic curve everyone is trying to achieve.”
 
And don't forget how unsanitary they actually are. Enjoy these photos of one of the common subcontracted manufacturing facilities where your mask is made.

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In-home servicer, I put on a mask and gloves when I go into customers homes whether it helps or not, just to make them feel better...especially seniors, who are scared to death about the whole thing...

Ever go to the casinos lately? The table games have plexi partitions between the players, and also between players and the dealers...yet everyone is still passing around the same chips.

Like the TSA, the whole 'mask/gloves/partitions' are illusions of safety.
 
Hunter said:
The point of my post was between the lines, don't wear a flippin mask when you go out. Peroid!!

Cause I'll tell what's coming next, after a couple months of this they'll rush out a vaccine that enjoys liability protection, like all Vaccines do, that you have to have to go out in public.

Guarantee you majority of the people on this forum will take the vaccine and the chip in the hand Bill Gates wants them to take to be over with this, guaranteed. I will either leave the country at that time and go live on the boat or die fighting them over it. More than likely the boat as people in this country really aren't worth fighting for anymore.
 
Doc Holliday said:
In-home servicer, I put on a mask and gloves when I go into customers homes whether it helps or not, just to make them feel better...especially seniors, who are scared to death about the whole thing...

Ever go to the casinos lately? The table games have plexi partitions between the players, and also between players and the dealers...yet everyone is still passing around the same chips.

Like the TSA, the whole 'mask/gloves/partitions' are illusions of safety.

Money supplies and change are running short but casinos use the same chips. Makes a lot of sense doesn't it? Bet you can't self serve at a buffet either though.
I fly all the time but am yet to go through the TSA shit.
 
Suck My Glock said:
And don't forget how unsanitary they actually are. Enjoy these photos of one of the common subcontracted manufacturing facilities where your mask is made.

nSQom61.jpg


XtEuvCe.jpg

A lot of those countries own nothing but flip flops for shoes. Wonder what filth those feet have walked through? But hey we have to wear them for others safety right?
 
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