Man who fired on SWAT team acquitted of all charges on self-defense grounds

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A St. Paul man was helping a friend guard his gas station during last summers riot. An unmarked van pulled up, and started shooting (rubber bullets). He shot back.

Read the article. You may find it interesting. I saw his mug shot. He didn't look too good. But it has been talked about for some time; about John Q. meeting swat thugs with fire power. Things don't look too good for cops after body cameras and sound contradict their lies.


https://kstp.com/news/saint-paul-man-who-shot-at-minneapolis-police-in-self-defense-acquitted-of-all-charges-by-jury/6224974/

An unidentified officer gave orders to Bittell, saying, "F*** 'em up, gas 'em, f*** 'em up." Once the unit started making their way down Lake Street, Bittell advised the officers, "the first f***ers we see, we're just hammering 'em with 40s." The driver was also instructed to approach with no lights or sirens activated on the cargo van.




The civilian was shouting, "they're shooting, they're shooting!" At no point did Stallings or the people with Stallings identify the people shooting as police. According to Stallings, he wasn't made aware of whom the people shooting at the crowds were, as they never made their presence openly known.

Once the officers spotted Stallings, Bittell informed his unit to "hit 'em," as one rubber bullet hit Stallings in the lower chest area, according to court documents.

After firing his weapon at the officers "three or four times," Stallings, a military veteran, then realized it was police and put his pistol down and laid down on the ground, after police yelled, "shots fired, shots fired." He didn't move for about 20 seconds as the officers approached. Body camera footage shows police kicking and punching Stallings while he was lying on the ground, as stated by the judge in court records.
 
The courts have been finding cases in favor of home owners who shoot police that enter without proper verbal announcements. It needs to be more common though. Since the thugs frequently dress like SWAT and claim to be police, there needs to be more latitude given. The burden of proof that the police are properly identified needs to fall on the officers; not a simple claim "we made a verbal announcement..." More and more videos are proving the police lie in those situations.
 
A_C Guy said:
DevilDocAZ said:
Who takes on a swat team w a pistol and lives?!

SWAT was shooting rubber bullets.

What does that have to do with anything? He fired on SWAT and didn’t get kneeled on to death? Hit his head on the way over? Get killed by some guys who already demonstrated they are not fit to serve.


Dude is lucky to be alive.
 
With the hurricane in New Orleans again, I am reminded how the BFRWPTLOTLFYED protected and served the Katrina survivors -- joining in the looting, taking guns from little old ladies, thumping a few folks, and even fatally shooting some. They protected and served the hell out of them.

It is a miracle that this guy survived, but no surprise that they arrested him and put him in jail.
 
A_C Guy said:
DevilDocAZ said:
Who takes on a swat team w a pistol and lives?!

SWAT was shooting rubber bullets.

Maybe that is part of what made his story believable... What idiot knowingly starts shooting at the SWAT team (unless they are precipitating suicide-by-cop)? I'm pretty amazed that this worked out this well! Dude thinks he's being shot at - shoots back - comes to the realization that he is shooting at cops - stops shooting - surrenders - does not get shot. There are a TON of paths that this thing could have taken that ended with him dead... Good that it worked out.
 
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