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something that has always mesmerized me is the fact a lot of gunnies will immediately go to new drop in triggers, hand guard change outs, grips, on and on and on, whether it be a hand cannon or a larger hand cannon. they will drop ungodly amount of $$$$$ to improve the function, but not in reality spend much time improving their skill, just an observance over the years, and yes, i have changed out triggers, and on new builds put different hand guards , grips ect, mostly as an experiment, with the exception of trigger re works. BUT not till i've spend a whole lotta rounds down range to see if i can adapt to the new unit, with the unit count i have, i could buy a lambo, in the attempt to upgrade all to shoot the same.

so i've learned to adapt and over come some issues, and those that i can't try to adjust them to meet other shooter unit standards with in reason.
just saying
Rj
 
As with any hobby, it's much more fun to buy stuff than to practice. Ask a golfer how many putters he owns.
 
I always considered guns a personal thing and try to make mine "MINE" by working on anything that makes it more usable to me. I've been known to try lots of different accessories looking for the one I want. Yes its always good to try out others guns to see how you like something they did or have but if you have several weapons you should have a good idea of what you like.

I never buy something that is all the rage like the different (custom) slides for my glocks as its just a slide and the one on it works fine. How much better can one work really? Barrels yes, springs and different parts to tune it to your liking absolutely.

dusty
 
AZ1182 said:
Honest question, why are we worried about what someone else does? It's not going to endanger me what Bob from the internet or Joe down the street does to their Glock that they seem to really like. Let them enjoy it as they the owner see's fit.

Normally I would agree but in the age of the gucci glock and the like sooner or later they are looking to dump it. Browse through armslist and see how many posts have "no gucci glocks". If I accepted every gucci glock in trade that has been offered to me I could arm an entire infantry company.

The only gun I have ever "customized" was my first handgun ever given to me on my graduation from high school, a Kimber custom II 1911. I have put god knows how many rounds through it, replaced some parts here and there with wilson stuff to be cool, wore the finish out, got it cerakoted, put night sights on it just cause, put a 6" barrel on it to squeeze some more fps out of my handloads for kicks. That's as close as I'll get to customizing a gun. I'll only upgrade a part when the factory one wears out. I still probably have less into that gun 11 years going than some of these glock owners do in the first week....
 
I think you see people wanting to dress up their Barbie doll no matter what the Barbie doll is, for some its their gun, others their Jeep, Harley, side x side, etc, etc. Human nature.

My thought is that I would rather spend time training with it than building it but I have no problem with those people that want to bolt on the newest gizmo, it doesn't change how I shoot mine if they bedazzled theirs.
 
knockonit said:
something that has always mesmerized me is the fact a lot of gunnies will immediately go to new drop in triggers, hand guard change outs, grips, on and on and on, whether it be a hand cannon or a larger hand cannon. they will drop ungodly amount of $$$$$ to improve the function, but not in reality spend much time improving their skill, just an observance over the years, and yes, i have changed out triggers, and on new builds put different hand guards , grips ect, mostly as an experiment, with the exception of trigger re works. BUT not till i've spend a whole lotta rounds down range to see if i can adapt to the new unit, with the unit count i have, i could buy a lambo, in the attempt to upgrade all to shoot the same.

so i've learned to adapt and over come some issues, and those that i can't try to adjust them to meet other shooter unit standards with in reason.
just saying
Rj

I do better triggers in my firearms and some like the AR get a few internal parts upgraded like one piece gas ring and extractor ejector parts but that's it. Friends give me shit because I didn't send my slides off to Zev or Taran to have stupid lines but in the slide to make it do nothing more than it already does. I usually say it is a tool from my rather large tool box. It's kind of like a hammer, does it drives nails any better if I have cool little lines or designs made in it? No it doesn't because its just a f***ing tool. I don't see mechanics customizing their tools. I don't see plumbers with designs on their wrenches. I don't see tile setters with custom painted tile saws. To me a gun is a tool, I use it with most of the parts that come with it and rather than change hand guards I just buy parts that fit that gun.

There was a hack gun plumber who I witnessed turn many folks working Colt AR-15's into useless guns by selling them on low profile gas blocks and a new hand guard. A week later I was there when they came back and said my rifle no longer works, it was kind of enjoyable to watch.

Smoothing a action, worth it, making a trigger shorter pull and less weight, worth it. All the other crap not worth it.
 
I bought my first Glock off of the old board a few years ago. Hadn't really paid any attention to what was available out there for Glocks because I preferred steel guns. Upon doing a quick internet search, I about crapped my pants.

That said, I could care less what people do to their guns. That's not to say that I may not roll my eyes a bit when I see what they have done LOL. But off the top of my head, the Glock shoots better than I had thought it would, has garbage sights that work well enough on a range only, and the low profile works well with my preferred shooting style. After only 200 rounds, I was ready to put some modifications into it.

Taking all that in pieces, you would see somebody who only put a couple boxes of ammo through a gun and already planning mods. What you don't see is that I have been shooting forever and pretty much every kind of firearm I could get my hands on. I know what I like and what I want out of my guns. When I take it out to the desert and run some drills with it, I may even decide on MORE modifications. Probably not though, because I'm a cheapskate and doubt that I would be using it to compete :D
 
Sadly, I have to agree with above posters, it's human nature. Just look at all the P.O.S. $500 cars that people put glass packs, K&N air filters and $5000 in stereo equipment into, lower it, and bedazzle that P.O.S. with a $4500 paint job.

Personally, I have a collection of holsters and low-end scopes/red dots that could fill a closet. <shrugs> On an impulse, I put a Skull and Crossbones rear plate on a Glock, but most of my handguns are stock
 
I used to be a serial tinker. I am somewhat reformed. Sometimes it was because ... I simply like to tinker and personalize stuff. Its in my blood.

Many times it was to overcome shortcomings in the gun as purchased real or imagined.

Over the last couple of years though .. I kind of feel like we are living in Guntopia. Never has there been such a glut of available guns in so many configurations. Now .. If I take it out to the range a few times and it doesn't click .. I just sell it and find something else.

I am not particularly sensitive to minor things or trigger pull weight and can usually polish my way to a nice trigger without expenditure but I use my guns mainly for entertainment and as such want to enjoy them. Right now I am in a really good spot and absolutely love everything I own. Each has their own thing about them, they are different enough from one another that taking them to the range is a different experience and I personally would rather buy more reloading components so I can shot them even more than buy some cool doodad.

Still attracted to the cool doodads .. just maybe I prefer to shoot guns more than look at them and without the nice paychecks rolling in that did at one time I would personally like to spend available extra money actually shooting.

I don't begrudge anyone that wants to play with their stuff though and if you have the funds go for it .. me ... I like to shoot!! Go twice a month easy so I am good for 400 or so rounds a month. Given finite resources ... I would rather make ammo.

Now motorcycles!!!!
 
I personally dont upgrade hardly any of my firearms. Never really saw the point. After you drop huge amounts of money you have already purchased the upgraded model from the factory and them some.
 
Much like you RJ I only will make a change after many rounds go down range. I did just install an aftermarket trigger in my Glock 43. I usually do not like to change anything with my carry weapon, but the stock trigger was just horrible. I have since changed carry guns to a Sig 365XL. I like it just the way they built it.
 
AZ1182 said:
338lapua said:
knockonit said:
something that has always mesmerized me is the fact a lot of gunnies will immediately go to new drop in triggers, hand guard change outs, grips, on and on and on, whether it be a hand cannon or a larger hand cannon. they will drop ungodly amount of $$$$$ to improve the function, but not in reality spend much time improving their skill, just an observance over the years, and yes, i have changed out triggers, and on new builds put different hand guards , grips ect, mostly as an experiment, with the exception of trigger re works. BUT not till i've spend a whole lotta rounds down range to see if i can adapt to the new unit, with the unit count i have, i could buy a lambo, in the attempt to upgrade all to shoot the same.

so i've learned to adapt and over come some issues, and those that i can't try to adjust them to meet other shooter unit standards with in reason.
just saying
Rj

I do better triggers in my firearms and some like the AR get a few internal parts upgraded like one piece gas ring and extractor ejector parts but that's it. Friends give me s*** because I didn't send my slides off to Zev or Taran to have stupid lines but in the slide to make it do nothing more than it already does. I usually say it is a tool from my rather large tool box. It's kind of like a hammer, does it drives nails any better if I have cool little lines or designs made in it? No it doesn't because its just a f*** tool. I don't see mechanics customizing their tools. I don't see plumbers with designs on their wrenches. I don't see tile setters with custom painted tile saws. To me a gun is a tool, I use it with most of the parts that come with it and rather than change hand guards I just buy parts that fit that gun.

There was a hack gun plumber who I witnessed turn many folks working Colt AR-15's into useless guns by selling them on low profile gas blocks and a new hand guard. A week later I was there when they came back and said my rifle no longer works, it was kind of enjoyable to watch.

Smoothing a action, worth it, making a trigger shorter pull and less weight, worth it. All the other crap not worth it.
It's not the low profile gas block's fault when it's installed wrong, FYI.

I have seen properly installed low profiles come loose when they heat up. Pin on is a lot better than screw on.
 
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