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oldslurrydog1

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For the life of me I can't understand how this keeps happening.

I heard this morning on the radio that a 7 yr old drowned. How or why did the parents not teach their child how to not survive in water? My kid was 6 months old and we had him in a COP swim class in 1980 to teach him how to belly up and swim to the steps of a pool.

My in-laws had a pool, like most in those days, with no fence. We wanted our kid to survive if he fell in.

JHC! even animals teach their young how to survive in the elements. What the Phuck is wrong with humans?

The following summer he swam like a fish. I picked him up, while he was fully clothed and told him what I was going to do, and tossed him in the pool. He did exactly what he was supposed to do.
 
People are dumb. They do dumb things.

I grew up with a pool in my backyard. I was a competent swimmer when I was 2 years old. Most people don't grow up with a pool in their backyard. Most don't know that public pools exist. I still meet adults that don't know how to swim.
 
My cousin drowned in the backyard pool when I was younger, too young to remember but it pretty much destroyed the family for years. I remember that clearly, even as a little kid. Everyone learned how to swim after that.

There is just no reason not to teach your kids how to swim.
 
When I was a kid polio was raging like covid on the 4th of july, learning to swim without access to public pools pretty tough...Navy taught me and gave me like me my 5th polio shot among many more.
 
In Marine boot camp there were plenty who could not swim and were shit scared when they had to jump in the pool with full combat gear and learn to float. Lucky I grew up with swim lessons starting in pre school. Spent summers in the pool or at the beach surfing.
 
I've never been a fan of the pool fence program touted, while it may have saved quite a few, it gave the parents, grandparent all a sense of security in regards to the water attraction.
watched by 4 year old grandson figure out h ow to get over our 5 ft wrought iron fence, little knucklehead, did it in matter of minutes, amazed the shait outta me, taught us a very valuable lesson, eyes on till he could swim, he found out real quick about water.
his mom about had a cow when i taught him, school of hard knocks baby.
happy friday, heart breaks when i h ear of a child drowning, let alone maybe surviving in a hellish future due to damage to them
Rj
 
There is absolutely no excuse for a kid drowning today. All kinds of ways to teach the kid drownproofing from a very early age.
 
Nobody had a pool when I was a kid.
We swam in the irrigation ditches that fed the farms.
It wasn't really swimming.
It was more setting in the water and letting the current push you down the ditch.
Then we got out , walked back and did it again.
That was our summer spot.
 
Ballistic Therapy said:
Nobody had a pool when I was a kid.
We swam in the irrigation ditches that fed the farms.
It wasn't really swimming.
It was more setting in the water and letting the current push you down the ditch.
Then we got out , walked back and did it again.
That was our summer spot.
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I though I was the only one.

One day I mustered the courage to ride it under the 10 freeway like the big kids did. There were 3 pipes. You wanted the center but any would do. Did it once…..mom beat me for “almost dying” funny thing was I only was worried about the spanking. The tube still sounds fun to this day.

I can’t even listen to the news when the stores come on

“A 3year old was pull from a family pool…. <click>

I used to listen to see if the kid made it; they never do.
 
the canals were a huge source of entertainment, for me on the ranch was water tanks we built, only problem was fricken cows fouled them, had to hit them before we moved cows to that pasture,

when older we skied in the canals, hehe, and always got chased, was ahoot, the falls at indian school and about 56th was a hoot,
 
I don't understand it either. You can't trust a baby or child to listen to you. I had my 4 year old grandson come over and decided that he was going swimming. (independent and spoiled by his mother).He went into a bedroom, changed into his swim suit, then proceeded to walk out into the back yard. As he walked by me, the only way to get out of the house, I asked him where he was going. He said that he was going swimming. I watched as the little sheet tried to open the back door to the pool. He couldn't because we have 2 locking door knobs to get into the back yard. The second is 5 feet high and he can't reach it. Grandpa and grandson have now come to an understanding. He only goes into the back yard if I am there. Not even grandma, just me.
 
Pools aren't the problem. People who don't watch their kids or get them drownproofed is what the problem is.

Full disclosure:

I've got a pool and no fence around it. Never has been, never will be.
 
But if a parent leaves an unsecured firearm around and their kid shoots itself or others, that parent is held accountable to the full extent of the law. The same level of laziness/inattention/ignorance applies to parents who don't teach their kids or don't secure the perimeter to a pool, but they are rarely if ever held to account when a kid dies in the water.
 
Dr Leaky said:
But if a parent leaves an unsecured firearm around and their kid shoots itself or others, that parent is held accountable to the full extent of the law. The same level of laziness/inattention/ignorance applies to parents who don't teach their kids or don't secure the perimeter to a pool, but they are rarely if ever held to account when a kid dies in the water.
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duh, the point is................................ :doh:
 
People also leave kids in cars and they die. It can happen to anybody, no matter how hyper vigilant you think you are. Pool fences save lives, so do seat belts. It is an added layer of protection.

Kids drown in buckets and bathtubs all the time, as well as pull dressers on top of them or choke to death in window blinds. All it takes is a little distraction, no matter how small or insignificant.

The most prolific thing you can do is get a baby in the water and teach them to swim, float and know how to get to the edge and also out of the pool on their own.

People in Arizona feel the same way about pool fences as they do about helmet laws. They could care less about what the data says, they just don't want their freedoms impeded on. They are hot button issues.
 
Personally I like our pool fence for that extra level protection. We have two young boys 3 and 6 and we constantly work with them on swimming skills. They do well but I do not trust them no to drown yet. They know not to even go near the fenced area unless we are going swimming. If they are in the backyard we are out there with them.

My biggest concern is other kids that come over that do not have the same discipline with parents less discipline to watch their kids. The fence helps with that. I don’t expect the fence to replace our eyes or attention to watch our kids in the yard but much like a seat belt or car seat it’s another tool that can and does help.
 
the home we lived in prior to this one over 20 years ago, we had the only pool in the hood, and the rule was no neighbor kid could get in pool unless one of their parents was there, or another parent of a friend ,besides me or the ole gal, had a ration of crap given to me by neighbors whining, ''my k id knows how to swim, i don't need to be there, why cant you let them, i just put a lock on gate, and my girls all knew if they broke the rules, their rights were given up. many neighbors were angry, and i felt for the kids, but my pool my rules,
life if full of disappointments and one of them for me was to not have to drag a youngster outta a pool, and try to revive them, seen it at the lake way too many times,

watch the kids even when older around the pool shenanigans happen
Rj
 
We need to get an issue on the ballot: All pool owners must have a certified lifeguard present when using their private pool, no matter who is using it, even if the people are trespassing.


Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day


Clyde
 
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