It started as a noise complaint. It ended in another fatal Phoenix police shooting

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Maestro said:
338lapua said:
Hopefully your time here is a short one

Honestly, I'm not sure how he hasn't been banned yet. At a minimum for his racist comments, but mostly because his only purpose seems to be to troll other members.

Hmmm, disagree with someone and they want you banned...*sniff* sniff* I smell democrat...
 
338lapua said:
gunsnboobs said:
338lapua said:
Glad you don't have a tin star since you are blind as f*** to what happened.

I'm glad I'm here...to find you...the end all god of all on the planet. HAIL TO THE CHIEF!!!! 🤣🤣

PS, I did get some gold stars in kiddiegarden, do those count chief?

Why does this forum seem to end up with douchebags like you, stevein29palms and so many other idiots lately?

We attract who we are. Sheeple don't seem to like independent thought.
 
AZ1182 said:
gunsnboobs said:
Tim McBride said:
The video, and you know, having had a LE career.

Thank you for letting me know you speak for all LE, I shall call you "Cop God".
Pardon me, but...

1. You painted with a road brush and called him a Monday morning quarterback.

2. He became your huckleberry after identifying that he does have insight being that he was former LE.

3. Instead of being humbled, you doubled down instead and singled him out for trying to speak for all of them when your last comment was a broad brush accusing basically him, of not being a subject matter expert.

4. There isn't any of this that you're going to come out on top. You have your right to an opinion and to discuss things, but I would recommend not using fallacies anymore.

On top? LMAO I was on top after the first "this is how we all think" response.
 
Girls, girls, girls, can't we all just get along and pretend we aren't still in junior high and using puppy dog filters for our Facebook pictures?????


ETA: Sounds like most people have forgotten what happened to Capt. GREG CARNICLE
 
AZ1182 said:
gunsnboobs said:
AZ1182 said:
Pardon me, but...

1. You painted with a road brush and called him a Monday morning quarterback.

2. He became your huckleberry after identifying that he does have insight being that he was former LE.

3. Instead of being humbled, you doubled down instead and singled him out for trying to speak for all of them when your last comment was a broad brush accusing basically him, of not being a subject matter expert.

4. There isn't any of this that you're going to come out on top. You have your right to an opinion and to discuss things, but I would recommend not using fallacies anymore.

On top? LMAO I was on top after the first "this is how we all think" response.
What you had was an opinion, nothing more, nothing less. And in case you haven't noticed, a minority one at that.

In a place like this where many do not agree with each other but in this thread there actually is a majority in agreement that this was a bad shoot, in certain circles they would call this a clue.

But this does beg the curious question from me, what is your profession? Have any current or former LE credentials? Military service, even a deployment maybe? I'd like to know where you're basing your argument from is all, not a jab at you.

That's right, an opinion. I don't care if it goes against the "clique" grain or not. Don't like it, ignore it.
 
gunsnboobs said:
Hmmm, disagree with someone and they want you banned...*sniff* sniff* I smell democrat...

It isn't about you disagreeing. It's about HOW you disagree. You're rude. And you have a history in your only 200 something comments of making racist remarks. Frankly, I just assumed you were a troll since many of your comments add no value to the conversation and just seem to be bumping your post count. Meh, to each their own.
 
Rock Hardson said:
Sounds like most people have forgotten what happened to Capt. GREG CARNICLE

In what way have we forgotten? Wanting to punish those whose actions tarnish the good deeds of countless officers?
 
gunsnboobs said:
AZ1182 said:
gunsnboobs said:
Thank you for letting me know you speak for all LE, I shall call you "Cop God".
Pardon me, but...

1. You painted with a road brush and called him a Monday morning quarterback.

2. He became your huckleberry after identifying that he does have insight being that he was former LE.

3. Instead of being humbled, you doubled down instead and singled him out for trying to speak for all of them when your last comment was a broad brush accusing basically him, of not being a subject matter expert.

4. There isn't any of this that you're going to come out on top. You have your right to an opinion and to discuss things, but I would recommend not using fallacies anymore.

On top? LMAO I was on top after the first "this is how we all think" response.


Were did anyone claim to speak for everyone?
 
Jager said:
I think the officers got a bad hand dealt to them. But overall, I think Officer Cooke acted in haste - and that Officer Ferragamo himself did not sense the need to shoot Ryan Whitaker - making Cooke's actions all the more questionable.

some good insight here, I will not armchair quarterback here, as others seem to thrive on, but your statement is hard to disagree with.

DV calls are dangerous, adding firearms into the mix elevates it

I am glad I don't have to go on those calls
 
Jager said:
Sounds like most people have forgotten what happened to Capt. GREG CARNICLE

First, he was a Commander, not a "Captain". He was a good man. Nothing I say will disparage or dismiss the truth of who he was and I both admired him and am saddened by his death.

We flogged that horse quite a bit in another thread.

https://www.arizonashooting.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7025&hilit=carnicle

Can we agree to not rehash that here?
Seems you missed the point, big time, of me bringing it up.

Ryan Wittaker has a high percentage of responsibility for his own death busting out of his apartment like he did, trying to act like a badass. Had he just opened his door, armed or not and peeked out to see who it was, he would probably still be alive today. It was totally a bad shoot on the part of PPD. The officer who was directly in front of Ryan didn't feel threatened enough to fire his duty weapon, as he saw Ryan was going to his knees, raising his free hand and putting his weapon on the ground.
 
[media]https://youtu.be/gnA17NkTOww[/media]

Watching this break down with the time stamp more visible, I'm willing to to admit my initial impression may have been off. It really looks more and more like a tragic set of circumstances with the majority of the blame placed squarely on the caller who lied.
 
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