If your employer fires you because you won’t get the COVID vaccine, don’t expect to collect unemployment

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Lot of jobs (most ?) are "at will" employees, the end, no reason needed to fire. City was trying to promote several city salaried people who could not be fired, but if the took the promotion they became at will employees, not good for retirement planning in a city job. At will employees (most) can be fired at will they just wont say vax was the reason. I thought it just meant you did not have to join a union but it is an express lane to the street if they want you gone. Sort of lie permanent probation. This was Mesa, worked Phx too, union was king there, but you did not have to join.
 
https://www.kold.com/2021/08/21/tucson-being-investigated-over-vaccine-mandate/

Tucson being investigated over vaccine mandate

She filed what is known as SB1487 request asking whether if “the Mayor of Tucson Regina Romero and the Tucson city council in violation of Executive Order 2021-18 by requiring city employees to receive a COVID vaccination as a term of employment.”

EO 2021-18 was issued by Gov. Doug Ducey after the city passed the vaccine mandate. In it, the governor says local jurisdictions cannot pass vaccine mandates.
 
Dauph said:
https://www.kold.com/2021/08/21/tucson-being-investigated-over-vaccine-mandate/

Tucson being investigated over vaccine mandate

She filed what is known as SB1487 request asking whether if “the Mayor of Tucson Regina Romero and the Tucson city council in violation of Executive Order 2021-18 by requiring city employees to receive a COVID vaccination as a term of employment.”

EO 2021-18 was issued by Gov. Doug Ducey after the city passed the vaccine mandate. In it, the governor says local jurisdictions cannot pass vaccine mandates.

Read my post in the other thread with the AG being total double talking cunt.
 
OSHA has just stated that if you must get jabbed as a condition of your employment, and you develop an adverse reaction to the juice, the company is liable and the injury labelled as a work-related event.
 
I have read that Pfizer has applied for fast tract FDA approval, and it could be approved released this Monday. If that happens, they will push convid vax even more. Banner and Dignity health are now mandating the vax to their employees.
 
Suck My Glock said:
OSHA has just stated that if you must get jabbed as a condition of your employment, and you develop an adverse reaction to the juice, the company is liable and the injury labelled as a work-related event.

They keep flip/flopping on this, do you have a link....this would be a big help.
 
Tenring said:
Suck My Glock said:
OSHA has just stated that if you must get jabbed as a condition of your employment, and you develop an adverse reaction to the juice, the company is liable and the injury labelled as a work-related event.

They keep flip/flopping on this, do you have a link....this would be a big help.

Agreed. That is my plan as well. Also working with my church to clarify our "deeply held religious beliefs".
 
Tenring said:
Suck My Glock said:
OSHA has just stated that if you must get jabbed as a condition of your employment, and you develop an adverse reaction to the juice, the company is liable and the injury labelled as a work-related event.

They keep flip/flopping on this, do you have a link....this would be a big help.

Here's a link. Osha has revoked their earlier statement about holding the company liable.

https://www.natlawreview.com/article/osha-revokes-guidance-recordability-covid-19-vaccine-reactions

OSHA Revokes Guidance on Recordability of COVID-19 Vaccine Reactions
Wednesday, May 26, 2021

On May 21, 2021, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) revoked recent enforcement guidance issued to clarify the recordability of situations where employees suffered adverse side effects from a COVID-19 vaccination. The original guidance, in a nutshell, states that if an employer requires its employees to be vaccinated as a condition of employment, the adverse reaction is recordable, if it meets the definition of a “new case” under 29 C.F.R. 1904.6 and otherwise meets the general recording criteria set out in 29 C.F.R. 1904.7. If the employer does not require vaccinations as a condition of employment (or merely encourages them), then the adverse reaction is not recordable. OSHA also memorialized this guidance in its COVID-19 frequently asked questions (FAQs).

On May 21, however, OSHA quietly removed this guidance, and replaced it with the following language:

Are adverse reactions to the COVID-19 vaccine recordable on the OSHA recordkeeping log?
DOL and OSHA, as well as other federal agencies, are working diligently to encourage COVID-19 vaccinations. OSHA does not wish to have any appearance of discouraging workers from receiving COVID-19 vaccination, and also does not wish to disincentivize employers’ vaccination efforts. As a result, OSHA will not enforce 29 CFR 1904’s recording requirements to require any employers to record worker side effects from COVID-19 vaccination through May 2022. We will reevaluate the agency’s position at that time to determine the best course of action moving forward.

OSHA’s website also reflects the revoked enforcement guidance as formally “archived” (i.e., shelved and no longer in effect) as of May 26, 2021.

Why Revoke This Enforcement Guidance Now?
There is no doubt that OSHA’s guidance created a disincentive for employers to mandate that their employees get vaccinated. With a mandatory vaccination policy, the guidance ensured that employees’ adverse reactions (with arguably little correlation to actual work-related injuries) could end up on a company’s OSHA recordkeeping logs—which could, in turn, negatively affect its insurance rates and, in some industries, its ability to bid for work.
 
Here is a link with that quote pointing to OSHA FAQs for employers:

"If an employer requires its employees to be vaccinated, adverse reactions to the vaccines are considered “work-related” by OSHA. Employers who require COVID-19 vaccines must notify OSHA within 24 hours of an employee’s inpatient hospitalization (or within eight hours of an employee’s death) resulting from an adverse reaction."

https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/osha-releases-guidance-for-employers-4440786/
 
Flash said:
Tenring said:
Suck My Glock said:
OSHA has just stated that if you must get jabbed as a condition of your employment, and you develop an adverse reaction to the juice, the company is liable and the injury labelled as a work-related event.

They keep flip/flopping on this, do you have a link....this would be a big help.

Here's a link. Osha has revoked their earlier statement about holding the company liable.

https://www.natlawreview.com/article/osha-revokes-guidance-recordability-covid-19-vaccine-reactions

OSHA Revokes Guidance on Recordability of COVID-19 Vaccine Reactions
Wednesday, May 26, 2021

On May 21, 2021, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) revoked recent enforcement guidance issued to clarify the recordability of situations where employees suffered adverse side effects from a COVID-19 vaccination. The original guidance, in a nutshell, states that if an employer requires its employees to be vaccinated as a condition of employment, the adverse reaction is recordable, if it meets the definition of a “new case” under 29 C.F.R. 1904.6 and otherwise meets the general recording criteria set out in 29 C.F.R. 1904.7. If the employer does not require vaccinations as a condition of employment (or merely encourages them), then the adverse reaction is not recordable. OSHA also memorialized this guidance in its COVID-19 frequently asked questions (FAQs).

On May 21, however, OSHA quietly removed this guidance, and replaced it with the following language:

Are adverse reactions to the COVID-19 vaccine recordable on the OSHA recordkeeping log?
DOL and OSHA, as well as other federal agencies, are working diligently to encourage COVID-19 vaccinations. OSHA does not wish to have any appearance of discouraging workers from receiving COVID-19 vaccination, and also does not wish to disincentivize employers’ vaccination efforts. As a result, OSHA will not enforce 29 CFR 1904’s recording requirements to require any employers to record worker side effects from COVID-19 vaccination through May 2022. We will reevaluate the agency’s position at that time to determine the best course of action moving forward.

OSHA’s website also reflects the revoked enforcement guidance as formally “archived” (i.e., shelved and no longer in effect) as of May 26, 2021.

Why Revoke This Enforcement Guidance Now?
There is no doubt that OSHA’s guidance created a disincentive for employers to mandate that their employees get vaccinated. With a mandatory vaccination policy, the guidance ensured that employees’ adverse reactions (with arguably little correlation to actual work-related injuries) could end up on a company’s OSHA recordkeeping logs—which could, in turn, negatively affect its insurance rates and, in some industries, its ability to bid for work.

Of course they did with 5000k adverse reactions no insurance company would want to hedge their bets against it.
 
Cubiclerevolt said:
Tenring said:
Suck My Glock said:
OSHA has just stated that if you must get jabbed as a condition of your employment, and you develop an adverse reaction to the juice, the company is liable and the injury labelled as a work-related event.

They keep flip/flopping on this, do you have a link....this would be a big help.

Agreed. That is my plan as well. Also working with my church to clarify our "deeply held religious beliefs".

That is wise.
However, with the false prophet errr.. the current Pope supporting the jab, makes it more difficult for Christians to formulate a solid exemption.

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Cubiclerevolt said:
Tenring said:
Suck My Glock said:
OSHA has just stated that if you must get jabbed as a condition of your employment, and you develop an adverse reaction to the juice, the company is liable and the injury labelled as a work-related event.

They keep flip/flopping on this, do you have a link....this would be a big help.

Agreed. That is my plan as well. Also working with my church to clarify our "deeply held religious beliefs".

This might be a good resource for you. Keep in mind that it doesn't matter what the head of any church decides. That is THEIR "deeply held religious belief". Your belief does not need to fall in lockstep with theirs.

https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/religious/
 
Suck My Glock said:
OSHA has just stated that if you must get jabbed as a condition of your employment, and you develop an adverse reaction to the juice, the company is liable and the injury labelled as a work-related event.

Link?
 
XJThrottle said:
Suck My Glock said:
OSHA has just stated that if you must get jabbed as a condition of your employment, and you develop an adverse reaction to the juice, the company is liable and the injury labelled as a work-related event.

Link?

I posted a link a few weeks back in the other vaccine thread. Unless they flipped again they reversed on those comments already.
 
XJThrottle said:
Suck My Glock said:
OSHA has just stated that if you must get jabbed as a condition of your employment, and you develop an adverse reaction to the juice, the company is liable and the injury labelled as a work-related event.

Link?

YNOTAZ said:
Here is a link with that quote pointing to OSHA FAQs for employers:

"If an employer requires its employees to be vaccinated, adverse reactions to the vaccines are considered “work-related” by OSHA. Employers who require COVID-19 vaccines must notify OSHA within 24 hours of an employee’s inpatient hospitalization (or within eight hours of an employee’s death) resulting from an adverse reaction."

https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/osha-releases-guidance-for-employers-4440786/
 
AZ_Five56 said:
Cubiclerevolt said:
Tenring said:
They keep flip/flopping on this, do you have a link....this would be a big help.

Agreed. That is my plan as well. Also working with my church to clarify our "deeply held religious beliefs".

This might be a good resource for you. Keep in mind that it doesn't matter what the head of any church decides. That is THEIR "deeply held religious belief". Your belief does not need to fall in lockstep with theirs.

https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/religious/

Thank you.

Agreed. Just thinking if they press the issue and want to challenge it against my gospel and the one account to "St. Fauci".
 
Charlie Kirk just went on a rant about the White House staff not being mandated to get the jab.....trying to find the link.
 
I don’t do Facebook but its the first link that comes up

https://m.facebook.com/realCharlieKirk/videos/4219869591424801/
 
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