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Not that I need one as of yet. Does anyone here know of a lawyer that handles 2nd amendment or gun related issues
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mark Victor Marine veteran and AZ local. good dude
480-755-7110
he now has a whole law firm freedom attorneys or something- ive used him long ago but i get texts from him if i have a question- schedule a visit and met with him. its way cheaper than if you call him cold to defend you
480-755-7110
he now has a whole law firm freedom attorneys or something- ive used him long ago but i get texts from him if i have a question- schedule a visit and met with him. its way cheaper than if you call him cold to defend you
gotta tell ya, had a friend use them and was a little unhappy with out come, says he won't use them again, this is second hand news , so take it for what its worth. I have no real first hand knowledge but do know of the failure of firm to deal with friends issue
at a cost of almost 20k . fo simple issue again jmo
at a cost of almost 20k . fo simple issue again jmo
It really depends where you live of course. A few years back I created a list (off google) of who I could call but I’ve not checked it recently, guess now would be a good time. Here is my list:
Mike Story (Tucson)
Joe Chornenky
Larry Kazan
Mel McDonald
Mark Andersen
Tim Forshey
Loyd Tate
Jim Soslowsky (Casa Grande)
http://www.attorneyforfreedom.com/mobile/
Law Office of Michael R. Bredimus, P.C.
7551 South Willow Drive, Suite 102
Tempe, Arizona 85283-5032
480-361-7604
[email protected]
bredimuslawaz.com
Brian Borrelli
Borrelli Law Office
480-833-6100 Work
480-593-6537 24-hr.
borrellilawoffice.com
Nicholas Hentoff
602-254-0800
1-877-FIREARM
gundefense.com
innocenceproven.com
Phoenix
Marc Victor
Victor and Hall
480-755-7110
victorandhall.com
Tempe
Tom Baker
Baker and Baker
602-279-1644
Phoenix
Joy Leslie Little
Little and Little, PC
520-795-7300
Tucson
Bruce Blumberg
602-264-1900
Phoenix
Robert J. Zohlmann
Zohlmann Arivaca Law
In defense of the accused
520-398-2291
Arivaca
Kevin OGrady PLLC
480-423-0047
Mesa
Mike Story (Tucson)
Joe Chornenky
Larry Kazan
Mel McDonald
Mark Andersen
Tim Forshey
Loyd Tate
Jim Soslowsky (Casa Grande)
http://www.attorneyforfreedom.com/mobile/
Law Office of Michael R. Bredimus, P.C.
7551 South Willow Drive, Suite 102
Tempe, Arizona 85283-5032
480-361-7604
[email protected]
bredimuslawaz.com
Brian Borrelli
Borrelli Law Office
480-833-6100 Work
480-593-6537 24-hr.
borrellilawoffice.com
Nicholas Hentoff
602-254-0800
1-877-FIREARM
gundefense.com
innocenceproven.com
Phoenix
Marc Victor
Victor and Hall
480-755-7110
victorandhall.com
Tempe
Tom Baker
Baker and Baker
602-279-1644
Phoenix
Joy Leslie Little
Little and Little, PC
520-795-7300
Tucson
Bruce Blumberg
602-264-1900
Phoenix
Robert J. Zohlmann
Zohlmann Arivaca Law
In defense of the accused
520-398-2291
Arivaca
Kevin OGrady PLLC
480-423-0047
Mesa
Marc Victor is indeed a good guy, but he is not "gun friendly." He is a criminal defense attorney who markets to gun owners. Here is an email I wrote several years ago about the article he has on his website which he titled "Five Things Every Responsible Gun Owner Ought To Know," which I urge you to read:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8j3ujolhze06k9z/MJV-Magazine-proof-OL-singlepage.pdf?dl=0&inf_contact_key=6665fc4aa2b36e45c50413cbf36a20d0
There is much useful info here, particularly what Marc summarizes as “Just Shut Up,” and which I characterize as “Speak The Fewest Utterances” (STFU).
However, there are two matters with which I disagree, not because I think I know more about the law than Marc (I sure don’t), but because I am confident I know more about guns and the dynamics of personal violence.
“Carry with an empty chamber.” I happened to see Marc’s presentation at the ASU Law School recently. The friend I was with asked Marc, “Even a 1911? Carry an empty chamber on a 1911?” Marc replied “What’s a 1911? I don't even know what that is.” He knows nothing about guns; he is not a gun guy.
Apart from the serious tactical disadvantage of getting killed before you can rack the slide, the other problem with carrying an empty chamber is that it could lead to a whole different problem: firing accidentally when loading. There is a person trying to kill Joe. Joe racks the slide as fast as he can. Do you think Joe’s finger might be on the trigger as the round goes into the chamber? Or do you think he will have excellent timing, and keep his finger outside the trigger guard until the instant after the round is chambered? I think he is likely to shoot that gun before he gets a chance to aim it.
“Better to be punched in the face than pull your gun.” This is the attitude of people whose experience with getting punched in the face is watching Bruce Willis and Matt Damon take brutal punches to the face with not so much as a cut lip or bloody nose. That’s not how it works. A punch to the face almost always causes serious trauma – hemorrhage around the eyes, broken eye socket, broken nose, broken jaw, loss of teeth, permanent vision loss, permanent brain damage, paralysis, and often death.
A punch to the face can “knock you out” – that is, cause a concussion. As we know from recent discussions of concussions in football and other sports, a concussion is not a trivial matter. But the biggest danger of a punch to the face is that, if you are knocked out, you fall to the ground without protecting yourself. Your face or your head smashes into the pavement – very hard. If the punch didn’t cause permanent damage, the unprotected smashing of head/face into concrete just about always does. Watch the faces and heads hit the sidewalks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u85kXAxYeQ8
Would you rather risk being prosecuted, or risk smashing your head into the sidewalk like that?
According to the law regarding "justification - self defense," you are justified in shooting somebody to prevent imminent death or “serious bodily injury.” A punch to the face causes serious bodily injury, sometimes deadly serious. Which is worse, getting prosecuted, or losing your eyesight, or suffering permanent brain damage, or shattering your facial bones on the sidewalks, or dying? Do not voluntarily “accept” a punch in the face. Use your gun if it is necessary to prevent an imminent punch to the face.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/soccer/2014/07/01/soccer-referee-punched-john-bienewicz-dead/11906323/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG2s4mBQqXI
Also, what are the chances that you will only be punched in the face once? Isn't it just as likely, or more likely, that you will be punched in the face numerous times? (And kicked in the face after you are down on the ground, unconscious and unable to protect yourself? Would you rather be prosecuted for using your gun, or would you rather take 10 or 20 punches to the face, and a kick or two?
Jurors (and prosecutors) probably believe, as Marc apparently does, that a punch in the face is a trivial thing, one click above being disrespected, not serious enough to warrant shooting. It is your defense lawyer’s job to educate them otherwise.
If I am prosecuted for using my gun, I want my lawyer to be a "gun guy," who can call BS if he hears the prosecutor telling the jury about deadly hollow points, and semi-automatic assault revolvers, and hair triggers, and cocking the hammer on a Glock, and carrying a round in the chamber, and not being justified because the person about to kill him was "unarmed."
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8j3ujolhze06k9z/MJV-Magazine-proof-OL-singlepage.pdf?dl=0&inf_contact_key=6665fc4aa2b36e45c50413cbf36a20d0
There is much useful info here, particularly what Marc summarizes as “Just Shut Up,” and which I characterize as “Speak The Fewest Utterances” (STFU).
However, there are two matters with which I disagree, not because I think I know more about the law than Marc (I sure don’t), but because I am confident I know more about guns and the dynamics of personal violence.
“Carry with an empty chamber.” I happened to see Marc’s presentation at the ASU Law School recently. The friend I was with asked Marc, “Even a 1911? Carry an empty chamber on a 1911?” Marc replied “What’s a 1911? I don't even know what that is.” He knows nothing about guns; he is not a gun guy.
Apart from the serious tactical disadvantage of getting killed before you can rack the slide, the other problem with carrying an empty chamber is that it could lead to a whole different problem: firing accidentally when loading. There is a person trying to kill Joe. Joe racks the slide as fast as he can. Do you think Joe’s finger might be on the trigger as the round goes into the chamber? Or do you think he will have excellent timing, and keep his finger outside the trigger guard until the instant after the round is chambered? I think he is likely to shoot that gun before he gets a chance to aim it.
“Better to be punched in the face than pull your gun.” This is the attitude of people whose experience with getting punched in the face is watching Bruce Willis and Matt Damon take brutal punches to the face with not so much as a cut lip or bloody nose. That’s not how it works. A punch to the face almost always causes serious trauma – hemorrhage around the eyes, broken eye socket, broken nose, broken jaw, loss of teeth, permanent vision loss, permanent brain damage, paralysis, and often death.
A punch to the face can “knock you out” – that is, cause a concussion. As we know from recent discussions of concussions in football and other sports, a concussion is not a trivial matter. But the biggest danger of a punch to the face is that, if you are knocked out, you fall to the ground without protecting yourself. Your face or your head smashes into the pavement – very hard. If the punch didn’t cause permanent damage, the unprotected smashing of head/face into concrete just about always does. Watch the faces and heads hit the sidewalks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u85kXAxYeQ8
Would you rather risk being prosecuted, or risk smashing your head into the sidewalk like that?
According to the law regarding "justification - self defense," you are justified in shooting somebody to prevent imminent death or “serious bodily injury.” A punch to the face causes serious bodily injury, sometimes deadly serious. Which is worse, getting prosecuted, or losing your eyesight, or suffering permanent brain damage, or shattering your facial bones on the sidewalks, or dying? Do not voluntarily “accept” a punch in the face. Use your gun if it is necessary to prevent an imminent punch to the face.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/soccer/2014/07/01/soccer-referee-punched-john-bienewicz-dead/11906323/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG2s4mBQqXI
Also, what are the chances that you will only be punched in the face once? Isn't it just as likely, or more likely, that you will be punched in the face numerous times? (And kicked in the face after you are down on the ground, unconscious and unable to protect yourself? Would you rather be prosecuted for using your gun, or would you rather take 10 or 20 punches to the face, and a kick or two?
Jurors (and prosecutors) probably believe, as Marc apparently does, that a punch in the face is a trivial thing, one click above being disrespected, not serious enough to warrant shooting. It is your defense lawyer’s job to educate them otherwise.
If I am prosecuted for using my gun, I want my lawyer to be a "gun guy," who can call BS if he hears the prosecutor telling the jury about deadly hollow points, and semi-automatic assault revolvers, and hair triggers, and cocking the hammer on a Glock, and carrying a round in the chamber, and not being justified because the person about to kill him was "unarmed."
Of all the people listed by TacMedic, the only one I know is Tim Forshey. Tim is a "gun guy" -- outstanding shooter and outstanding knowledge about guns and the law of self-defense. He would be my first call.
Noshoot said:
Yup, like I said this list was from a google search and they have not been vetted....
Just from this post, one was removed from my list and one moved up on the list as a possible. The community here may have even more info on those on the list. The more it gets narrowed down, the easier as a community it will be to select the best representation.
I listened to Marc Victor speak at a gun show and I personally found his presentation quite enlightening, though I know many people will think he's full of crap. Anyway, don't think he's not in it for the money, he's a lawyer. He makes several valid points and as he is criminal defense lawyer, I listened to his point of view.
Firstly, use your firearm, you will be charged. He will require at least 10k retainer and your bill will likely be over 20k. Second you will most likely be charged by the DA with a felony even if it was justified. Even if you were in your home, but had been drinking, and someine broke in and you protected yourself, you will have a problem. Also if you decide to go to the jury, no telling how that will turn out for you.
The DA will most likely offer you a couple of years of probation if you plead guilty to a felony. Otherwise you will face 5-10 years in the pen leaving it up to the jury. So most people plead and they lose their gun rights which means, no more toys.
I'm pretty sure that's what he's talking about when he says better to let them punch you in the face. I personally had a situation where the guy was reaching in his pocket during a verbal alterction for what I thought was his knife. He must have left it at home and he was extremely danger close. As it turned out he pulled out his empty hand. Lucky me and him.
Several other times I was totally wrong about the situation I was observing and thought something nefarious was up, when if fact it was only my perception.
But, as they say, I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass whooping. The only problem, if you hesitate it's going to be too late. But if you make the wrong call, you're screwed.
That's what I got out of Marc Victor's gun show presentation for what it's worth.
Firstly, use your firearm, you will be charged. He will require at least 10k retainer and your bill will likely be over 20k. Second you will most likely be charged by the DA with a felony even if it was justified. Even if you were in your home, but had been drinking, and someine broke in and you protected yourself, you will have a problem. Also if you decide to go to the jury, no telling how that will turn out for you.
The DA will most likely offer you a couple of years of probation if you plead guilty to a felony. Otherwise you will face 5-10 years in the pen leaving it up to the jury. So most people plead and they lose their gun rights which means, no more toys.
I'm pretty sure that's what he's talking about when he says better to let them punch you in the face. I personally had a situation where the guy was reaching in his pocket during a verbal alterction for what I thought was his knife. He must have left it at home and he was extremely danger close. As it turned out he pulled out his empty hand. Lucky me and him.
Several other times I was totally wrong about the situation I was observing and thought something nefarious was up, when if fact it was only my perception.
But, as they say, I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass whooping. The only problem, if you hesitate it's going to be too late. But if you make the wrong call, you're screwed.
That's what I got out of Marc Victor's gun show presentation for what it's worth.
For those of you in Tucson,
I have a friend whose son committed misdemeanor stupidity with a gun, but in Pima County, they hate guns and gun owners and wanted to put the young man in jail for many years. My friend was referred to defense attorney Laura Udall, and he can't say enough good things about her -- extremely pleased with her advocacy on behalf of his son.
Bottom line: strong recommendation for Laura Udall in Tucson.
I have a friend whose son committed misdemeanor stupidity with a gun, but in Pima County, they hate guns and gun owners and wanted to put the young man in jail for many years. My friend was referred to defense attorney Laura Udall, and he can't say enough good things about her -- extremely pleased with her advocacy on behalf of his son.
Bottom line: strong recommendation for Laura Udall in Tucson.
Myles Schneider is an attorney who actually trains -- I've been with him in class.
A couple months ago Glen Stilson had him on his podcast, and included a small PDF download.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hcwj87un46tj6dh/Self-defense%20Power%20Point.pdf?dl=0
https://thearmsroomvom.podbean.com/e/self-defense-and-arizona-laws-with-attorney-myles-schneider/
A couple months ago Glen Stilson had him on his podcast, and included a small PDF download.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hcwj87un46tj6dh/Self-defense%20Power%20Point.pdf?dl=0
https://thearmsroomvom.podbean.com/e/self-defense-and-arizona-laws-with-attorney-myles-schneider/
I can personally vouch for Marc Victor as I have used him myself. He is a very simple attorney and I like that fact. You tell him what you need, pay him, and he takes care of it and lets you know when its done. I have also recommended him to someone else that used him and was very happy as well. We did speak about guns and I am flabbergasted that he stated he didnt know what a 1911 was. I wonder if he just wasnt actually hearing it correctly as our conversation about guns showed he wasnt an expert, but he did have some knowledge. His main gig is the criminal defense stuff. And he is more along the lines of a libertarian. He does have quite a bit of pizzazz and flash, but that can sometimes come to an advantage. If you're looking for paperwork stuff, I would look to Trent Woods. Again a great guy with my personal experience.
+1 for Tim Forshey. I went to one of his classes at SGC. He's still active. He's also one of the attorneys in the network for USCCA. Full disclosure I am a member of USCCA. However, I was a member before I knew he was in the network. The class is where I found out he's in the network.
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